Speaker 1: 0:09

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Speaker 2: 0:41

Welcome to this week's episode of how Do you Skate. I'm your host, sean Egan, and I have part of the roller derby team Spawn of Skatin' and would you guys like to introduce yourselves then I'm.

Speaker 3: 0:55

Killer B.

Speaker 5: 1:04

And I'm Moto Maiden. I didn't go first cause I talk a lot, so I'm trying to let other people you know I'll carry this whole podcast. Let me tell you.

Speaker 4: 1:12

I was not expecting that.

Speaker 2: 1:16

So now a lot of people don't understand roller Derby. I've got like some of the basics down, but what is the? What is the premise of roller Derby? And I've got like some of the basics down, but what is the? What is the premise of roller derby? And what is your position and what is your like job when you're out there on the floor?

Speaker 5: 1:33

Come on, coach, explain roller derby.

Speaker 3: 1:38

So it's teams of five against five. You have a jammer who is responsible for scoring points and four blockers who are responsible for protecting the jammer and providing offensive and defensive play while on the track. The jammer has to get through the pack for an initial round before they can start scoring points and they have to pass everybody's hit to score points. The team with the most points at the end always wins.

Speaker 2: 2:09

How violent does it get out there?

Speaker 3: 2:13

Well, we just had a scrimmage last weekend and somebody had a concussion and a couple of sprained ankles are pretty normal. Whitey has broken her ankle. At practice I've known people to break legs and clavicles, so it's pretty violent.

Speaker 2: 2:34

But fun, I'm going to say nice. So what are your guys' different positions? Are you jammers or blockers, or what do you guys do?

Speaker 5: 2:45

Bea, I'll let you go ahead before I start. Yeah.

Speaker 4: 2:49

So I just recently joined the team. I'm about a year kind of in, and Sam pretty much makes us do all the positions so that we learn. You know how to be a jammer, how to be a blocker, but you definitely have your favorite kind of position, and my favorite is to jam. So I'm basically the person that everybody's trying to hit and so I'm trying to avoid and then go around the track, and so that's my preferred position. However, I'm kind of liking being a blocker too sometimes.

Speaker 5: 3:20

So you know, yeah, I am a jammer through and through. I hate blocking. I refuse to do it, even though wifey always makes me do it. Um, I mean, I I understand the reasonings because when you're playing both sides, you can see things from both sides, but I'm a jammer through and through. I love to jam. Sign me up for jamming always nice, which is actually like a good thing, because lots of people don't like to jam. So usually when you're doing scrimmages or games, jammers are so hard to find everybody will block but nobody will jam why not I?

Speaker 2: 4:01

I would. I'd love to be a blocker because I like her.

Speaker 5: 4:03

I mean hitting people right well, this is why I love jamming, because jamming reminds me of being in a mosh pit, and I love being in mosh pits, so it's like it's the same thing. You just run as hard as you can and just like hit people like it's the best nice and last but not least, um, so I was voluntold to be coach about a year and a half, almost two years ago now.

Speaker 3: 4:31

I predominantly block, but I will jam if I have to. I will hate every second of it because I die every time I do it. I have not fit enough to be a jammer. I like to stand in your way and totally block and be totally fine.

Speaker 2: 4:48

Or get run over. So now, how old were you guys when you started skating? Because that's usually where I start, but you guys are my first roller derby team on the podcast, so kind of had to get the basics down before we get into everything else. So how old were you and what's your kind of like skating history?

Speaker 3: 5:13

Oh, um, no skating history whatsoever. I kind of found Derby on accident. I was I think I was 23, going on 24 because I celebrated my 25th with Moto and I've been doing it ever since.

Speaker 2: 5:32

I'm not even going to ask how old you are now, because I know it's not right.

Speaker 3: 5:39

I'm pretty sure I'm 33.

Speaker 2: 5:41

Okay.

Speaker 3: 5:44

I might have forgot a year or two, but I'm pretty sure I'm 33.

Speaker 1: 5:46

I might've forgot a year or two but I'm pretty sure I'm 33.

Speaker 4: 5:52

Oh man, um, I guess I could answer next Um. So I skated a little bit like when I was a kid, like around roller rinks, that kind of stuff, um, but really never like uh. I guess later on in life I kind of took a step back from it and like focus on other things, um, and then I think I've been I just made a year Derby anniversary, um, so I got back into it, um, I went to a skate camp at some point, um, and then I was like okay, like I kind of want to get back on skates, um. And then I was like okay, like I kind of want to get back on skates, um, and then I live right by the rink, so it was super convenient, was on a walk and like literally like saw the sign and I look to my now fiance and I'm just like what about roller derby?

Speaker 4: 6:36

Because I was looking for things to preoccupy my time because I didn't have any hobbies, and then it kind of just fell in my lap, kind of like you know, sam, where it was just like oh, okay, um, and I'm very small and petite, um, and so I was like I don't know if I could do it, um, but then you kind of learn that there's a space on the team for everybody um any type of body size, any you know kind of thing. So I was just like, okay, and everybody's super nice on the team. So I was like, okay, this is it.

Speaker 2: 7:05

You guys are supposed to have your gimmicks and not be nice. You're supposed to be mean. I want to be intimidated.

Speaker 5: 7:09

No, literally Modo. That's reserved for every other team. Every other team is like that, so they can have that. Yes, but we're nice Sorry.

Speaker 2: 7:23

And your history, Modo.

Speaker 5: 7:30

So kind of the same thing. Well, when I was younger, I rollerbladed for like a few months and then I mean like super young, and then I did not touch skates until I got older um, when I joined derby I think I was like mid-20s when I joined derby too I actually found Derby. There was an ad on Facebook. A team out of Stockton was having a recruitment night and I was like that looks kind of like fun, and so then I went out there with a friend and we watched and like the second I seen it, I was just like I want to do this. I want to be just as bad-ass as those women out there Like I. I went to they had a, one of their games and I went to the game too and it was just really cool and I've loved it ever since.

Speaker 1: 8:17

Nice.

Speaker 2: 8:18

Now did Derby like pick up after the pandemic Cause I left California. I left the Bay area in August of 2022 and there was not a whole lot of skating and at that time they're like final months of um the golden skate in San Ramon. That was like my home rink back in the eighties and nineties, so like it was finally coming to that. It was closing and everything. So out here well, here they skating is huge. There's roller dirt, Like you can find everything out here.

Speaker 5: 8:48

Wait, wait here. Where are you at?

Speaker 2: 8:50

I am now in just North Denver of Colorado.

Speaker 5: 8:54

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2: 8:55

Yeah, so I left California. That's why it's like when I saw it was out of Livermore and I'm like that's my hometown, so but like when did it like really pick up for Derby out there? Cause I don't ever remember seeing anything about Derby.

Speaker 5: 9:12

Okay. So it's interesting that you say that, because Derby has been around out here forever, even before the pandemic. Like there's so many teams out here and they've, like our team, has been around since 2006. And there's even teams that even span even to like the beginning of, like the 2000s. So they've been around for a while. And I laugh when you say about Golden Skate, because I used to go to Golden Skate all the time. Well, that and like I was primarily raised like Hayward, like Pleasanton, like areas, areas, and so I used to go to golden's gate all the time and then, of course, valley vista and hayward.

Speaker 5: 9:50

But they're still, to this day, talking about how golden's gate's gonna close down. But they're still open. They're still they are they, oh yes, they do like adult skates, they do like all kinds of things there, so they're not gone yet. I almost feel like I'm like what's happening here, guys?

Speaker 2: 10:07

Yeah, this was crap. Like right after the pandemic they were announcing that they were closing down. So it was kind of and I mean we're talking like late eighties, early nineties is when I got into skating and so I've been skating, I think probably longer than all of you have been alive. So but yeah it's. I know cause I used to be out of a wrestling promotion out of there called big time wrestling out of um Newark. They run their shows at the Newark pavilion and when we would have our wrestle fest we had some of like the old school roller Derby out there.

Speaker 2: 10:45

Like yeah, so it was uh, it was really cool to see. Now, where do you guys actually have your matches at Cause? I mean, I know, when I left California, all of a sudden it started raining and snowing and flooding, so I'm apologizing for the drought. Um, so where do you guys actually? Because I know where you guys practice is an outdoor rink, so when you guys have your games, where do you guys or what do you call them Matches? Bouts, bouts okay.

Speaker 2: 11:18

Okay, so it's like MMA. When you have your bouts, where do you guys have them at? Where do you hold them at?

Speaker 5: 11:25

Sam, I'll let you go ahead.

Speaker 3: 11:27

So we practice and play in the same area. We're very much community driven and because we practice and play at a school, at an outdoor hockey rink like that is our home. We practice there, we play there. We're there now almost all year long.

Speaker 2: 11:43

So we try to stay in our home spot because they've supported us for so long, so we try to stay supporting them yeah now, do you guys like travel to other areas to have your bouts, to face other teams, or just everybody come to you because you guys are the kings or queens?

Speaker 3: 11:58

sorry, um we just were in hollister about a month ago to play, uh, the fault line derby devils. Most teams travel to play each other. Our friends from modesto, the central team, came up to see us last uh tuesday, or no, last saturday. So yeah, we all kind of travel and go see each other all the time. I mean, I've gone as far as Carson City for games.

Speaker 2: 12:30

You guys got to challenge some of the Colorado teams out here. That'd be fun, but have them come actually. There's like no way you guys have an advantage as far as cardio goes, because if they go down there, it's weird because, being up at the mile high, when you go down to a lower area and skate, I can skate for hours without getting winded, no matter how fast I'm going but then if you come up here then you have to adjust to the altitude.

Speaker 2: 12:55

So I didn't even think about that, that's true so yeah, and we have some, some top teams come out, I guess, like some of the national champions play on the Denver team out here, so but Listen, we know all about them, we watch their games and everything and are just like I want to be like that, please. That's when I actually do roller derby. That's who I'm going to be skating with.

Speaker 5: 13:22

Are you serious? I have to get used to quads again.

Speaker 2: 13:24

Serious, I have to get used to quads again. I have to get used to quads. I played some rink hockey with my kid um this last season. That just ended a couple of weeks ago. So because I mainly do inline, short track ice, long track ice so now I have to get used to quads again. So I'm like, don't even get me on a skateboard, I won't do it. But so now, as far as like your injuries go, I know Sam said she's had some concussions.

Speaker 3: 13:52

What are some of your best injuries, not for myself, but like I've seen somebody snap a bone at like a game. A couple years ago, right before the pandemic, somebody had broken their ankle and, like I personally, popped the flexor tendon on the top of my foot. So I basically gave myself a reverse sprained ankle and my only worry when it happened was for them not to cut my boot off. I was like it's already broken, I don't care, just take the skate off. Like don't cut my skates, they're very expensive yeah, skates are not cheap.

Speaker 5: 14:36

I was gonna say I can attest to that because my, I think I had only been playing derby for, like I want to say, maybe six months I don't even think it was six months and it was like one of those moments where it was practice. It was the final jam of the night because at the team that I was previously at, we would scrimmage at practice and so it was the final scrimmage of the night and I was like tired and I was like you know, I'm probably just gonna sit this last one out and just watch. You know, you get that little voice, like you know, just take it easy. And of course somebody from the track was like we need a couple more skaters. And even though the voice was like you know, you should just chill, what did I do? I'm like let me go and, sure enough, went out there and that was the night that I broke my fibula, dislocated my ankle joint and sprained my foot, so I got six screws and a plate in there and that was quite a journey.

Speaker 5: 15:44

And I had the same reaction that Sam did when they took me in the ER and they were like we can cut it off and I said you better not just please take it off, I don't care how much it's going to hurt, just take it off. These are very expensive. I can't afford a new set, please. But yeah, so that was. I had that, that same reaction. You're just like not the skate. How was my skate, though? My foot is like broken apart, but how is the skate?

Speaker 2: 16:06

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3: 16:10

Oh no.

Speaker 5: 16:11

I'm like trying to be like excited about being in the sport and then like you guys are saying your horror stories and I'm just like okay, but in that same breath, look at how, like okay, yes, my stuff was all mangled, but look at me now, like I've already come back, I've strengthened it, I've. You know, as long as you do your physical therapy and your conditioning and you take care of yourself and you just have that want to come back, I feel like you'll be fine you put a positive twist on it.

Speaker 4: 16:42

I like that Absolutely.

Speaker 3: 16:45

And, to be fair, that happened six months into her freshman season. You're already a year or past that season already, exactly and I now have hit my 10-year derby anniversary so I've been doing

Speaker 2: 16:57

derby for 10 years.

Speaker 5: 16:59

I was not gonna let that stop me and and usually you'll hear a lot of people say this when they're doing the sport the first injury is usually the one that a lot of people say this when they're doing the sport the first injury is usually the one that makes or breaks people, because after that first ankle injury, a lot of skaters don't return. And so to be able to sit here and say that I'm now 10 years in after that injury, like I think I was down for another six months, like after that, so to be able to say like, hey, I'm 10 years in and I'm like doing all this stuff, like that's a feat in itself, like cause, most people don't come back after that. So it is possible.

Speaker 2: 17:32

Yes absolutely and any major injuries for you be luckily not yet.

Speaker 4: 17:39

Knock on wood, knock on all the wood. I'm like, literally, yeah, I'm like please knock on all the wood. I'm like, literally, yeah, I'm like please knock on wood for me because, luckily not yet. Um, yeah, yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it, though, in our last um our home bout. There was a girl who I think she broke her she broke her.

Speaker 5: 18:01

She broke her.

Speaker 4: 18:02

Ankle her, ankle yeah and that spooked me a lot, um, but it was definitely like you know, the realization that you're playing a physical sport, um, and that's what, like my fiance told me, he was like you know you're, you're in a physical sport, like you know, you have to kind of. It kind of comes with the, with the lay of the land in a way, um, and so I think in my mind I'm like okay, I think I could process that and it processed. And you know we felt bad for her. We sent her flowers and everything, um, but yeah, luckily nothing yet for me. Knock on all the wood, please again in the same breath.

Speaker 5: 18:39

For that, yes, this is a full contact sport. This is why it is important to do your conditioning at practice, outside of practice, and this is why we really stress on teaching how to fall, how to stop, how to be in that derby stance, how to take those hits, how to give those hits Everybody knows all of those things to try and prevent injury as much as we can. Again, full context for it.

Speaker 5: 19:06

You're going to get hurt, you're going to get bruised, but if we can try and like get ahead of it as much as we can and try and prevent what we can. That's what we're doing.

Speaker 2: 19:16

So now, why do you think that when people get that first injury that they it makes or breaks them, why do you think a lot of people don't come back?

Speaker 5: 19:25

I think it's because they get scared, because it is traumatic, like I, I will say, from my injury in particular, it was really hard for me and I actually did fall into like a really deep depression because you, you, I basically had to learn how to re-walk again because of all the stuff in there, and I just feel like people get afraid of that and it kind of puts like a mental block almost in there, because even for me, like when I was like walking, I would like not even put weight on my foot, like it was almost like I didn't trust my leg to hold me up, and so I had that mental block for a really long time.

Speaker 5: 20:05

And it's like, if you can figure out how to come out of the other side of that, you're going to be so much stronger. And most people, I feel like, don't. Maybe they just don't have, maybe they just don't have the will to come out of it. I don't know, but I'm I'm a stubborn person and I'm like this is something I love, I'm not giving it up. So I'm going to do what I need to do and get back on the skates and come back even harder, and that's exactly what I did.

Speaker 2: 20:32

Yeah. Do you think they just lacked the actual toughness to come back? Because I know, with various things I've done, I've had some pretty bad injuries and some bad health stuff and yet somehow it for me it drives me to do more. Um, you know, it drives me to do more and go further.

Speaker 5: 20:55

So yeah, I don't think it's not being tough. I just think that there's like that, there's like a mental block of some sort that people just can't get past. And it doesn't necessarily mean they're not as tough. I just think people, some people just can't move past.

Speaker 2: 21:10

That it takes a lot yeah, and then sam wanted to say something I told you I will just keep talking like.

Speaker 3: 21:17

That's why I'm trying to let them talk first I don't want to like cut everybody off in the middle of their spiel. So it was so good. I think you a lot of it comes down to. You know you have your body growing up and then when something catastrophic like a break happens, it's your. You feel betrayed by your body growing up and then when something catastrophic like a break happens, you feel betrayed by your body. Something happened where it didn't protect you the way it has always done in the past. It's really important too, after serious injuries that we take care of ourselves Even before the injury, listening to your body when it tells you you probably shouldn't go out for that second skate like we tell them at practice all the time. Drink water, take care of yourself. If you need to sit down for a second, sit down like no one's going to be mad at you if you do that.

Speaker 3: 21:59

We want you to push yourselves, but we also want you to take care of yourself too yeah and for me, I've noticed in the later years of my derby career that teams are more supportive with stuff like that, because in earlier years when you left the team for an injury, no one checked in on you, no one made sure you were okay, Like once you were out of coming to practice you weren't. It was almost like you weren't a part of the team anymore, Whereas here we try to make sure that people are still like okay, everybody still checks in with each other. We still message each other how are you doing? Do you need food? Do you need like clothing washed, Like something? And I think that's really important for injuries too is having the mental health aspect taken care of just as much as the physical.

Speaker 1: 22:52

That's a great point.

Speaker 2: 22:53

Yeah. So now tell me the truth how many of you take your injuries and brag about them later and use it kind of as a badge of honor?

Speaker 3: 23:04

All the time. I was just telling one of my friends, I got skate raped at practice, where I now have a wheel-shaped bruise on my vagina. I don't have to say that I'm doing what I do. I did not consent to the wheel to be there, but it went there. It's sitting for a couple days, very interesting.

Speaker 2: 23:31

I don't even know how to respond to that one.

Speaker 5: 23:35

I told you it was going to get wild.

Speaker 2: 23:40

Oh Lord, help us. This might be the highest rated one just for that comment, so I mean, I don't know if we have to censor words.

Speaker 3: 23:50

I'm sorry, no. I don't know if we have to censor words, I'm sorry, no.

Speaker 2: 23:52

I don't, because we're not usually explicit, but you use like proper, like medical terminology. So I think we're good.

Speaker 3: 24:02

I can use all the medical terms we need. I work in the health field. It's fine.

Speaker 2: 24:06

There you go. So now, what do you guys do as far as like outside the rink and training with roller derby, like what do you guys do? Like, are you guys on eating regimens? You guys use supplements, do you guys hit the gym? So what do you guys do?

Speaker 4: 24:35

let's hear from B, from B, okay, okay, um. So I um just kind of got back into the gym and just, I think roller derby actually kind of helped me get back into it because, um, I would, you know, um, I would kind of like, because I'm I prefer like being a jammer, so I'll like kind of juke people and then I'll kind of, you know, try and use my like shoulder muscles and all of that. But when I started I didn't have the muscle really, and now it was just kind of bone um, which also benefits too. But, um, I was just like, okay, let me kind of get back into the gym, um, and so, yeah, um, I've been going to the gym pretty consistently to just kind of build muscle, um, and that kind of helps me also build endurance too, cause when you're a jam and you got to do fricking so many laps and then you know if you're the only jammer on the team or whatever, then you got to go back out there every single like jam, and so, um, definitely endurance.

Speaker 4: 25:22

But also our coach has us do um challenges, um, so daily challenges, and she kind of puts together a kind of list of exercises we do and then we check in kind of um and yeah, that that helps us a lot too. Um, so yeah, just various exercises and stuff.

Speaker 5: 25:40

That that's what I do, yeah and I was gonna say for me personally I think it's only been just the last year you would have thought that I would have been like more consistent with it.

Speaker 5: 25:54

But I feel like only within the last year I've really been trying to like change, like doing workouts outside of practice and like looking at different um, like supplements, like um. A few months ago I skated with the team and they had they were like electrolyte pills and so I have tried those and I actually really liked them. And I've been looking at like other things because, like I said, I am a jammer through and through and sometimes, like like we said, you're out there, your endurance needs to be up. You're like juking skills, everything you know you get tired easily. I mean, if they're hour long, well it's two, 30 minute halves and then you get like 10 or 15 minutes of halftime in between.

Speaker 5: 26:42

And you know jammer is like that high endurance, so you're just burning through calories, burning through like muscle, like everything. So I feel like it's only just been in the past year that I'm really trying to find like alternative things and my wifey will make fun of me through and through, but I'm a very big like yoga stretch person, so I love all the stretching. I make sure that she puts stretching into practices because it's super beneficial. I feel you don't want to pull anything Absolutely.

Speaker 5: 27:14

Especially for the hip flexors, to the way we skate and yes, oh yeah, If you're all like different stuff, I feel like you just can't like move the way that you need to. So I'm all about the stretching and stuff. Um, I feel like when I first started Derby, I think the only reason that helped me excel as far as I did is because I would watch what they were doing at practice. And then my best friend who doesn't skate I would have her come with me to a tennis court and I would have her run the drills with me. So like a lot of like the pushing drills and stuff like for jammers, she'd be in her tennis shoes and I would just be pushing her like in my skates, her and her tennis shoes, and it was very hard and I think a lot of like the.

Speaker 5: 28:00

It's not only what you learn and do at practice, but it's like the conditioning outside of that too, and I do a lot of trail skating too. So I feel like that really helps with like your reaction times. You know when a car pulls out in front of you and too. So I feel like that really helps with like your reaction times. You know when a car pulls out in front of you and you're like I need to freaking stop right now.

Speaker 2: 28:15

Like or go over it.

Speaker 5: 28:17

Yeah, it's like, what are we doing here? It's either stop or hit the car Like I think I'm going to stop, like and just the different terrains and stuff. And I know in the past a lot of people have said like trail skating is so different and just doesn't help with derby skills. And I have to disagree because I feel like it helps a lot with just like picking up your feet to avoid rocks or like stopping or just like like being aware and like a lot of the trails I do, there's like people like on bikes and kids and dogs, and so you're constantly just like, okay, what's happening here?

Speaker 3: 28:52

so I think it's helpful sam I'm not a big trail skater because I don't have a lot of endurance um, it's just not one of the things I excel at. But it is beneficial, because anytime you have your skates on is a good time, like any time you can put them on even for just a couple minutes, like it's always beneficial to just be aware that they're an extension of your feet. For myself, I do a lot of strength training stuff because I'm in health care work and I do like a lot of patient care. I also do heavy lifting at the gym, do like a lot of patient care. I also do heavy lifting at the gym.

Speaker 3: 29:33

Like I focus more on core and muscle strength, less on endurance, unless I'm at practice, in which case we do jammer. Hell, two weeks in a row says why not? Um, but it's one of those. Like when I do jam, I'm not a jukie jammer because I'm not as fast as b or moto is, so I tend to just push, like it doesn't matter how many girls are on my way. I'm pushing them out to 20 feet so I can get out, and then I'm good for another 50 feet around the track. That's my only goal nice.

Speaker 2: 30:03

Yeah, I do like trail skating, like when you mix it up, because the different kinds of skating that you guys do works different aspects of your muscle and also builds core strength. And especially when you do like long bouts and everything you core strength is most important. I mean, cause I do the distance. So keep yourself in the tuck position for 26.2 miles is not easy, so. But so now, was there ever a time when any of you like just got to a point where you're like screw it, I'm done, I can't do this anymore?

Speaker 3: 30:40

Um, for me I I feel like everybody comes to that point Eventually. I thought it was going to be during the pandemic because my last home team dissolved. We weren't able to be during the pandemic because my last home team dissolved, we weren't able to maintain during the pandemic. Everybody kind of was doing their own thing and I was searching for a new home and I couldn't find one for a while and I was like I guess, I guess this is it. And then Moda reached out and she's like hey, I'm taking over. If you want to be, come help me out. I was like yeah, yeah, I do. Like I guess I'm still in it, we're good nice, anybody else?

Speaker 2: 31:22

I have no experience yet you're still young, give it time.

Speaker 5: 31:26

I love it even with the comments about the breaking bones and stuff I was gonna say to say for me, I think that point came when.

Speaker 5: 31:34

I was with my last team. I was with them for I think I want to say five years and towards the end of that I was like I just need to take a break and just do something else. It takes a lot of your time and I was in a new relationship and, like derby can consume your life if you're not careful, because there's just so many like I'm like the president of this team now. So now like it's like really all time consuming, but even as a skater, with just like fundraising and community events and going to practice, and I mean we have one practice a week, but most teams have two or three a week and they're usually, I believe, two hours of practice. And so I think I hit a point where I was like I don't know if this is for me anymore, like maybe I'll just kind of take a step back, and I didn't really want to like do the team commitment and for, I think, like a year. I want to say maybe a year probably wasn't even a full year. I would like to believe it was a full year, but it probably wasn't.

Speaker 5: 32:43

I just did what we called borrowed skating, so I didn't actually belong to a home team, I just any team that needed to fill their roster, I was like, hey, I'm available. And I just did that for a while. And then I realized that while the time commitments are very like a lot I didn't want I love to skate and at the end of the day, like I love to play derby and I love to be a part of it, so I just couldn't quite put it down. And I think after that point is when I found the current team that I'm on and I had joined them as just a skater, and then I want to say, like I don't know, three years later, here I am like running the whole show. I'm like, okay, jump right on in, all right.

Speaker 2: 33:28

Sometimes you need that break, though. In All right, Sometimes you need that break though just to kind of rediscover your passion for it. So and I had a few years off and when I came back I did not realize how much I missed it. And it's it's. It's nice when you get that break and then you come back. And I know killer bees, she's still young. Eventually she'll get to that point where she takes like a year off and then comes back.

Speaker 5: 33:53

Well, I'm 52 now and I've been skating since 88, so well this is how I know that I love this sport so much is because I broke my ankle so I had a six month break I had a baby.

Speaker 5: 34:07

So during that time I had a baby and I think I was off for like two years, so, you know, to be a mom and I'm, you know, still being a mom while trying to do this. But in all of that time I just like was watching stuff. I would like even get right back on my skates and it's like that's when you realize, like you know, what this is. Maybe more than just a hobby like this is like a true passion and it makes me happy and I can't see a day where, like, I don't put my skates on like that. I'm sure that day is going to come where I'm eventually going to hang it up, but it's not even close to being here yet. I even my daughter is too, and I bought her the little like shoe skates and so I try and get her on those and she walks around in them and loves it and I'm just like all my heart anything for you, sam no, I don't have any kids.

Speaker 3: 34:57

So no, no, kids with eight shoes. Um, for, for me, I just I mean, I I bounced from a couple different home teams. I left my my original home team Cause there was a lot of toxicity, and I moved to low dice team. I was with local for a few years. It was really welcoming and really like. What I was looking for in a team and I think that's really important too is like the camaraderie that comes with being part of a team sport yeah that we don't necessarily have to like each other all the time, but we're.

Speaker 3: 35:34

We like our team now. We hang out all the time. We go out to the bars. Afterwards we go and do like fun events with each other. We have team bondings where we all like try to make time for each other. It's an extended part of my friend group where we actually enjoy seeing each other outside of practice and I think when I, when we established everything and we're trying to do everything, I just I could see myself doing this until I'm too broken to do it anymore.

Speaker 2: 36:03

Which, like I said, I'm 52. So it's going to be a long time.

Speaker 5: 36:08

I look forward to it.

Speaker 2: 36:10

So now, me being from livermore and you guys practicing in livermore, when you go to the bar after practice, which bar is your bar of choice in livermore?

Speaker 3: 36:21

is it our, our plate?

Speaker 2: 36:23

okay, yeah, that's right by where you guys practice. Yeah, so I used to actually work at the oak door, which is up north livermore actually it's like south livermore what was that? And?

Speaker 5: 36:36

then I I think they've been good. There was one instance where they went to the fat pigeon fat pigeon, that's got to be new yeah because, yeah they were having a themed night for hallow.

Speaker 3: 36:50

They did like a hocus pocus thing so we went out to go support them. We try to make time to support, like the local downtown environment. Yeah, because local business, local shop, local, all the local.

Speaker 2: 37:03

So when you like. Do you guys like have a booth when, like the Honey and Wine Festival comes through?

Speaker 3: 37:13

have a booth when, like, the honey and wine festival comes through. Um, I know when we did the beer and wine festival, we went out and supported uh, downtown livermore association so we helped them like pour wine and and we're hostess and stuff like that. Um, moto is the one that sets up all of our events. She's been, she's been doing an awesome job with all the events we've been trying to do for the community yeah, so we do um, we do street fest, we do the livermore valley half, we do.

Speaker 5: 37:40

I'm trying to think of any whatever more. Yeah, we just started doing stuff with altamont brewery having um, okay they're doing a vendor fair in December.

Speaker 5: 37:50

That we're doing and then the first one we did uh was in June. They they do like a, a street series where they do um, it's in the summertime and so they have vendors, they have live music and that was our first time doing that one and it was. It was super fun. Um, that one, we actually had a booth for our team but, like the Livermore Valley half and street fest, uh, we really focused on um, like volunteering for the event. So, like street fest, we pour beer and wine and then Livermore Valley half, we passed out water to the runners and snacks and, um, because for me a lot of it is, yeah, we want to promote our team and let people know that we're here, but a lot of it, too, is giving back to the community and helping in any way that we can like promote these events and you know where it's like giving water or doing whatever, like all the volunteer stuff now, how do you guys advertise for your club?

Speaker 2: 38:41

is that what you guys call yourself, a club?

Speaker 5: 38:44

a league, whatever the right way. A lot of it is through social media. Um, we, there have been instances where we have gone to downtown livermore and flyered um, and have like, had like, went in and asked like, hey, can we put up our flyer in your window or whatever. Um, we don't get out and do that as often as I would like hopefully that. But a lot of it is through social media. We have all the socials TikTok, twitter or X sorry, facebook, instagram, everything and I also run that too.

Speaker 2: 39:21

Now, how did the name come up with? The spawn of Skaten?

Speaker 5: 39:26

I love that name so so this team has actually gone through a few different name changes, um, because they there were a few different like owners and stuff.

Speaker 5: 39:38

So it's been it's kind of been passed down a little bit, um, but the previous name when I started was the quad city derby bombshells I like spawn of skating better so that's the name, but there is a Quad City I think they're called like Quad City, something in another state, and when you're doing team names you have to register them, and so we kept getting mistaken for them and getting tagged in a lot of their stuff.

Speaker 5: 40:08

So the previous owner I believe it was right before the pandemic hit um decided like, hey, let's go through a name change, and so I'm not sure where they came up with the name of spawn of skating, but it was one of the options. There was like four options on the board and everybody voted and everyone loves spawn of skating and that's that's. Yeah, it was a team vote.

Speaker 2: 40:32

Now do you get pushed back from the Catholic church for the name?

Speaker 3: 40:36

No, okay, so weird. They love us.

Speaker 5: 40:42

We have not had any bad experiences with churches yet. There have been some kind of moments where people have announced us as spawn of Satan and I'm like, oh my God, but no, no, no like bad repercussions yet so far. The community is like they love our name, they love our logo, they love like everything about it. I was a little weary in taking over and especially wanting to expand the team with our name, because that was kind of my first thought was like people are going to look at this and be like, yeah, I don't know if I want to support that, but that's not been the case at all. Everybody's been super supportive and they even ask us back to events. So that's telling.

Speaker 2: 41:29

Do you guys have t-shirts for the team, like for like merch, that fans can buy?

Speaker 3: 41:41

yes, I actually. Yes, yeah, all of our newbies get a welcome pack. That moto and I put together it has like a tote bag and a t-shirt with the logo on it and a few other little essential things we think they might need in their near future derby careers. Um, I just recently got a heat press machine, so I have been making merch and t-shirts.

Speaker 2: 42:07

I actually think I have some loose decals because before we were we were using a company in the mall to kind of help us get a couple of shirts nice I have decals ready to go whenever I'm ready to make a shirt because I definitely I will wear a spawn of skating shirt at the roller rinks up here we will get you one.

Speaker 5: 42:32

Let me know your size and we will double xl.

Speaker 2: 42:35

I'm fat so all right.

Speaker 3: 42:38

Oh no, sir, we, we don't use terms like that.

Speaker 2: 42:41

You are fluffy I was p-h-a-t fat, not so now the important question is is who is your biggest influence for skating or Derby, or to go the direction you? I know tough question on some people.

Speaker 5: 43:02

That's an easy one for me, but I'm going to go ahead and let them go first um, for me it's freight train.

Speaker 3: 43:11

We did a clinic with her a couple years ago and she is a super friendly person and very phenomenal skater and she is just a brick shit house when she comes in to hit you like it's. It's like being hit by a train, like her namesake is just spot on and it was just super fun to be pummeled by her for like two hours Best two hours I've had in a while. And my personal goal we have a friend who is on Central. Her name is Miss Popper and my goal has always been to push Miss Popper out of my way, because she's one of those ones where when she sits in front of you she's not going anywhere.

Speaker 4: 43:54

So my goal is just if I move her, I know I'm doing okay nice right, um, for me I'm still, because we're still kind of playing teams and stuff and I'm learning. You know all the different teams, all all different players, um, but I think maybe somebody on my team that I don't know what the question was, but like challenges me or, like you know, makes me want to become better, is um, bt Kitty. Um, she's a badass on skates, um, and recently in our scrimmage um, I had you know she was, she was on the opposite team and my goal was to just get past her, like, push past her and like you know, just just try, just try, cause she's, she's so fast and she goes and she's just like I don't even know Um, and it's so hard to get past her. Like you turn one way, she's there, you turn another way, she's there anyway. So that was my goal, um, and she's there anyway.

Speaker 4: 44:47

So that was my goal, um, and she's on our team. So it's super cool to have her in practice. Um, and she's a great hitter. So when, when she comes around and just be prepared and stuff. So she definitely challenges me to, you know, try and you know, be a better skater and um, you know, just helps me work on all the things too. She's really good at advice too. So yeah, nice.

Speaker 1: 45:16

I dig it.

Speaker 5: 45:17

Wifey stole mine. Mine is also freight train. She's just like she said. She's a phenomenal skater. Her endurance is amazing, her hits are solid. She just has amazing track awareness. Like she just can play the game really well and you can tell.

Speaker 5: 45:35

And I think for me it's like really inspiring, because she's not a small woman Like she is on the bigger side and for me I'm not. I mean, I'm not very small either, I'm on the bigger side too. So to see her use her body and move her body the way that she can I'm not very small either, I'm on the bigger side too so to see her use her body and move her body the way that she can, I'm just like I aspire to be just like that. Like I want to have that awesome footwork, that track awareness, those like solid hits, like just knowing the game as well as she does. Like I watch her videos and hits all the time and I'm just like. I think that's why, like in the past year, I'm like how can I condition myself to like really start to be like the best athlete I can be, to be like that?

Speaker 5: 46:19

And there there is a skater that I've I've gone up against at two different scrimmages. Ironically, his name is a train and he is like a phenomenal skater, but man he is, he's a, he's a brick wall. It's the same how Sam feels about Miss Popper, that's how I feel about A-Train, and I have gone up against him twice and I'm just like every single time I'm like, okay, have I improved? Like I just watched the videos back of, like, okay, this is what I need to do, this is how I need to train and my goal is to one day actually be competition for him. It's not there yet, but I'm working on it.

Speaker 2: 46:59

You'll get there. So now, another thing I like to ask is what is your skate of choice? The boot, the bearings, the wheels? So I like to know all this stuff.

Speaker 1: 47:14

I love it.

Speaker 3: 47:18

I think it's important for myself that we went through stages of skates. So, like most teams have what's called a loaner box where they have a mishmash of all the gears they could try it on and figure out. If you even like skates and I think my first pair of derby skates were some $35 Chicago skates from Big Five that broke about a month and a half into me using them because they were plastic wheels and I've actually, yeah, I've transitioned through a few different pairs and I'm currently using antics on areas points okay, and wheels and bearings uh wheels, they're the um, the poison savants.

Speaker 3: 48:09

Uh bearings. Honestly, I'm not big on bearings, so it's just whatever cheap ones I can find on Amazon. I know they say reds are good, but I don't care.

Speaker 2: 48:20

Junk wheels make some good ones too.

Speaker 3: 48:23

That's good to know.

Speaker 4: 48:29

Yeah, I'm like trying to even think so. I started skate, or I started um my skate journey on like hot, what's the term? High top skates or um, basically like a boot kind of thing? Yeah, um, is there a term for that?

Speaker 3: 48:45

she has the, she had the moxies. Yeah, like moxie moxie skates.

Speaker 4: 48:49

Yeah, I'm like trying to even remember because I got that. I got roller derby skates and I haven't put the moxie. Yeah, like Moxie, moxie skates. Yeah, I'm like trying to even remember, cause I got, then I got roller Derby skates and I haven't put the Moxie's back on, um but um.

Speaker 4: 48:57

So I started in those and I told myself that if roller Derby was like actually going to be a thing, then I would invest in you know, some Derby skates and everything, um. And so I think it was about gosh, several, like several months in where I was like, okay, derby, I'm gonna stick with derby and stuff. Um, our teammate, or our teammate Demma, she actually had, um, some skates that she bought and then didn't use um, and so, um, exactly her foot size, and so I was like, let me, let me try them on. And I skated around and it took. It took a lot of adjusting, um for sure, um, because when you're going from a high top skate to like, you know, the derby skate, there's less ankle support and you know all of that. So it took some time to get used to everything. Um, but now, and those are, I think, right, right, oh, right, I think they're right. L skates. I could be totally wrong. I'm still learning all the names, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 49:52

Rydell sounds right, so yeah.

Speaker 4: 49:54

Yeah, I think, yeah. There's barely enough time where I look at the name, I just put them on and then go, so and you just use the stock wheels and bearings.

Speaker 2: 50:01

They came with it.

Speaker 4: 50:02

Exactly yeah.

Speaker 2: 50:03

Okay, don't worry, that'll all change.

Speaker 4: 50:08

Yes, yes, but yeah, that's me.

Speaker 5: 50:13

And I will say on Bea's behalf I watched her skate in her moxies versus her derby skates the second she put those derby skates on. I saw her aggressiveness, oddly, her agility, everything just like improved by like overnight. I was just like who is this skater?

Speaker 2: 50:31

It probably came in the instructions that you have to do it if you wear them.

Speaker 5: 50:35

Oh yeah, totally did, totally.

Speaker 3: 50:38

We always joke that Bea's got a stinger when she comes through and hits you, because it hurts a lot more, especially when she catches you in that third rib as she's coming through. Yeah, the stinger came out when she got the new skate.

Speaker 4: 50:52

Doing my job, she got a big bruise. The other day and I will not let her live it down, don't worry.

Speaker 3: 50:58

I had to think of a bruise picture journey for her so she could see what she did to me.

Speaker 2: 51:03

Well, in pro wrestling I don't know if they still do it, because, like I said, I was part of the old school Like when someone does something to you like that, then they get a receipt.

Speaker 3: 51:17

you don't know when that receipt's coming, but it'll come eventually, so just beware, she might not have told you about that.

Speaker 2: 51:20

Yeah, oh yeah, ruining it hey, she still doesn't know when it's coming.

Speaker 4: 51:24

I'll be, I'll be ready. I, I think.

Speaker 2: 51:29

She's going to be aware of everything going on around her now. No, I don't know.

Speaker 3: 51:35

Sam go ahead.

Speaker 1: 51:38

Yeah.

Speaker 5: 51:42

And then for me, I kind of I started on a Rydell boot so I got my skates from a skate shop. They had like a derby package, so it came with skates and all the gear and obviously at that time, when I was just starting, I didn't really know a whole lot of what I was supposed to get or what I was looking for. And the person who sold me my skates actually sold them to me two sizes too big, and so I skated on that for a few years. Like those boots lasted me a while and I would just wear really thick socks and I, before I broke my ankle, I wore ankle braces and then when I broke my ankle, I stopped wearing them. It's super weird, but I started on those and then I kind of went through a few different boots because nothing really like as a jammer. One of the things that I would do a lot is I would dig really hard when I was pushing and a lot of the issue I had with my boots were that my heel would keep coming out. Whether the boot fit perfectly or not, my heel would always lift out of the boot. So that was like one of the things that I was like how I was like wear thick socks. I even one of my old boots, I had a cobbler, so in like a piece of leather to try and like make it tighter, and like nothing worked. And then, I don't know how, I found the current boots that I have now. They're the Jackson's and they have like a heel lock in them, so and they, they fit beautifully, like. I am really sad because I don't think that they make the same boot anymore and I should have known, because I I ordered them from a site and I got them for like 50 bucks, like they were super cheap, and I was like this is like what's the why are these boots so cheap? I'm like that's weird, but I ended up loving them and now I realized that they I think they're discontinued. So I'm like I'm really trying to take extra good care of them so that way I can have them for a really long time. Um, but that's my favorite boot. I'm on a Falcon plate right now, which I don't really know a whole lot about the plates. My boyfriend just I, my favorite color is pink, and so he tried to get me like a pink plate and they were actually sold out, so he got me a purple one, but I mean they seem like they work really well.

Speaker 5: 54:06

When it comes to wheels, I laugh because I've always been the person who has never changed my wheels. I would just either wear whatever is on from, like the manufacturer, or, if I like. I think I bought a set of pulses like the outdoor wheels and I just would rock those like it didn't matter if I was skating outdoors, indoors concrete, hardwood I'm on the same wheel. I didn't know any better and so I mean I would just do whatever. And then, as of recent, I just purchased the Adam Savant wheels and they're extremely sticky and I've never skated on a wheel that sticky before. And these guys will tell you I was at practice like screaming because I'm like this is amazing. I love these wheels.

Speaker 5: 54:58

Like I felt like my agility could be a bit like. I've only had them for like a couple of weeks now and I've only skated like a couple of things. But I am so excited for next season to see how it changes like my skating style and stuff. I'm not a fast skater, so I'm not like speedy around the track, but I feel like I have pretty decent agility. So now that these are the way that they are. I'm like man I hope that this really improves my agility even more and I could feel I've always had an issue with doing crossovers. I don't know, maybe, and it could all be just like a placebo effect, but I'm just like. I feel like I'm faster on these things, like I don't know what it is. And then bearings I've always loved reds those are I've tried roller bones before and reds, and I feel like I like reds a lot more.

Speaker 2: 55:52

Okay, and then, when is your guys' season Like? What does the season run from?

Speaker 3: 55:59

It typically runs from like February to mid-November.

Speaker 2: 56:04

Okay.

Speaker 3: 56:05

Like it's the official season. We've seen now after that pandemic a lot of teams take like a month off in June, july, like midsummer, but before that it was February to November, like we ran straight through with the new stuff. Who knows.

Speaker 2: 56:26

Nice. So now, what is advice you have to people wanting to come into roller derby that have never done it before?

Speaker 3: 56:39

We always tell people to drink the Kool-Aid. We want them to join our cult. We actively call it a cult because we want them to come. Come be friends with us, come join us. Honestly, it's just, it's getting over, like the fear of new things, like just coming and checking it out. We have recruitment nights on a regular basis where we just go to introduce ourselves and like talk to people and our first practice that we have people come and visit, we have them spectate, they're with like a derby mentor that's there to answer any questions that they might have. While stuff's going on, like we try to make it as welcoming as possible because we want them to be friends with us. We want them to come hang out with us.

Speaker 2: 57:29

Anybody else got?

Speaker 3: 57:27

advice.

Speaker 4: 57:30

Don't hang out with us, anybody else got advice I would say along probably the same lines as Sam is just try it, and if you don't like it then you can just say no, but just kind of get a feel for it, ask questions and really I mean, what I've learned about the Derby community, being in it, is that everybody is so nice and welcoming and we get, I feel, like a rep of like you know, being tough and being like you know, but that's that's really how we are on the track.

Speaker 4: 58:00

And then you know, at practice and stuff we're still, you know, that kind of tough layer, but also I think it's like that inviting, kind of like energy and like camaraderie within our team and I can speak on, you know, a spawn of skating, but just the community, you know that you feel, just kind of try it, you know, see if it's something that you like. And I think that's pretty much what hooked me from my recruitment when I joined, on recruitment night was just the banter that they had and just the community and that piece of it. So definitely just give it a shot, give it a shot.

Speaker 5: 58:37

Now I'm coming from the other angle of that, which is it is an amazing sport. You find some really awesome people and friends, but it is a time consuming sport. It is full contact. It is, you know, there's a lot that goes into it. That's not just skating, um, there are like outside things, and it is a full-time commitment and I always try and remind people of that when they are coming. Um, it's super fun.

Speaker 5: 59:06

We love this community, but it does take a lot of time. So just make sure that you know you can. We love this community, but it does take a lot of time. So just make sure that you know you can. You make time for it and have time for it. And one thing that I always try and say with this team is this is our team and I always want it to work for us. So I try and be as lenient as possible because I know that you know we all have friends and family and like outside commitments outside of Derby. So I try not to put too much on my team. I try and keep it like as doable as possible, but at the end of the day, in order to keep things rolling and going and to stay relevant in the community. It is it's like a full-time job.

Speaker 2: 59:45

Yeah. So my final question and we're going to find out real quick is out of the three of you, who talks the most smack?

Speaker 3: 59:59

oh can you guess?

Speaker 2: 1:00:03

I'm gonna say sam, because she's the quiet one. So if, like you, set her off, I could see her going off on people.

Speaker 5: 1:00:09

You are spot on. You are spot on. What do you?

Speaker 4: 1:00:13

mean Miyamoto's niceness and stuff.

Speaker 2: 1:00:18

No, she's like the quiet, reserved one, and when I worked as a bouncer it was always the quiet ones that made me the most nervous. But when they snap, they can run their mouth like no other.

Speaker 5: 1:00:29

She doesn't need to snap, she just runs her mouth, yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:00:34

If you get me going like there's probably no stopping me. I'm going to hurt your feelings, I'm going to hurt your ancestors feelings. So like, so long as we don't get to that point, we're okay.

Speaker 2: 1:00:45

No, that's what I want. That's what I want to see.

Speaker 3: 1:00:50

I mean, I honestly I blame it on just being passionate about the sport. So, like the fans are passionate too, right, I'm just as much of a fan as I am a player. If I'm in the bleachers watching, I'm talking shit the whole time. I did have to apologize to one of our referee friends when we were in Carson City for Battle of the Silver Skate. I said I am so sorry. If you ever need me to ref, I would be happy to help to make up for my behavior here today.

Speaker 5: 1:01:25

Listen, I had to tell her to take her team stuff off. I'm like, if you're going to be talking this much shit, take your team designations off.

Speaker 2: 1:01:34

Oh no. No you want that reputation. It's like cool, okay, so I have to know. Okay, I might've said that was my final question, but now it's like sparked a whole new question have you ever made anybody cry? Smack talking.

Speaker 3: 1:02:02

I have cry smack talking I have, but for other reasons as much as I smack talk I also say some brutally honest stuff when it's necessary and that's smack talking to Okay To humble some people.

Speaker 3: 1:02:12

But yes, I have made one person cry. I did feel a little bad afterwards and we've made up and sort of I'm sorry, we don't talk anymore. That's a lie. I have tried to actively change my ways. I've I've tried to be more supportive and like try to reign the smack talking in for just when I'm spectating the sport. Um, I do. I do take my designations off, so I'm not affiliated with anybody when I do it.

Speaker 3: 1:02:47

But yeah, I tried to reign it in to only smack talk from the bleachers when I'm not actually playing.

Speaker 2: 1:02:53

That's like. What makes it exciting, though, is the smack talking. It's that's all part of the sport, and if you can't handle it, then you shouldn't do the sport. If you get verbally abused and you can't handle it. But I want to know is has anybody I know I already said last quick, but has anybody like hit you so hard that during a bout that you're like fuck it, I'm going after him?

Speaker 5: 1:03:18

yeah, yeah listen, I'm gonna say this right now I am like super nice when I get on the track. I'm there to play my game, I'm there to do my things. I know that this is a full contact sport, but I played uh, it was a like a themed scrimmage and this person did a reverse direction on me and knocked me so hard on my ass like I could, like I couldn't. I finished the game but I could barely squat like it, like I was, like like my ass is broke, like this is it my ass is broke and I will tell you I usually I don't usually like get those feelings, but I'm like, I'm fucking coming for you.

Speaker 5: 1:04:04

You just wait until I see your ass at another scrimmage. I am coming for you. I don't usually get like that, but I'm like. You know what that was uncalled for you just gotta hang out with sam more often right, I really I I try to be a bad influence we're.

Speaker 3: 1:04:21

We're actually derby wives so we we have been stuck together, for I think we just celebrated our ninth year together. Oh wow, we have not officially been married at RollerCon yet, but it is coming One of these days. But yeah, there's been a couple players that are on my shit list that if I ever get the chance to like we've had conversations about it at team games, at team stuff I will be cordial as much as possible. If I ever get borrowed and I get the green light, I'm taking it. Yes, yes, I'm just waiting for the go-ahead.

Speaker 2: 1:05:05

I mean, your name is Killer B, so you've got to have some people that you want to take out.

Speaker 4: 1:05:12

She's a baby, she hasn't met anybody yet I'm definitely a baby, for sure. Yeah, I haven't really met anybody or remembered their names. Trying to remember everybody's derby name is a challenge. There's a lot of long ones and a lot of different. Anyways, during the scrimmage I did just as much as I love bt kitty I wanted a layer flat, but I was like I'm like, but she's on our team, so, but when she was against us, I was like I'm and and yeah, I think it just becomes so frustrating when you just can't, like you're trying to get past and it's just like it's not happening, and I think that's what like kind of sparked it. But next time, next time we're, we're black and white again or maybe I love you.

Speaker 3: 1:06:07

I'll make sure she's on the other side of the scrimmage line. No, I'm scared.

Speaker 5: 1:06:13

No see, that's the wrong attitude. You should not be scared.

Speaker 2: 1:06:17

Exactly.

Speaker 4: 1:06:19

I'm still taking names, but not yet. Nobody's done it yet.

Speaker 2: 1:06:26

Well, I want to thank you guys for coming on today.

Speaker 3: 1:06:30

Thanks, for having us. Thank you. Well, I want to thank you guys for coming on today.

Speaker 2: 1:06:32

So so, and one last thing is how do we find you guys online?

Speaker 5: 1:06:53

any of our social medias. We have TikTok, we have X, we have Instagram and Facebook, and I try and keep it as up to date as possible, so there's always content on there. Um there's either content of what we're doing and practicing at practice, or there's um like community events, things, or um any of our schedules, um fundraisers everything is all up there.

Speaker 2: 1:07:12

Sweet Well, thank you guys.

Speaker 3: 1:07:14

Thank you, thank you, this was fun. Thank you, thank you.