Speaker 1: 0:09

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Speaker 2: 0:41

Welcome to this week's episode of how Do you Skate. I am your host, sean Egan, and my guest this week is Jamie Ogle, out of Texas. How are you doing today, sir?

Speaker 3: 0:51

Man, I couldn't be any better.

Speaker 2: 0:53

That's awesome. So now I always like to start at the beginning. So when was the start of your skating, like how old were you, and kind of walk us through the early days a little bitty guy.

Speaker 3: 1:06

I was a little bitty guy, probably four or five years old, um, I grew up in leonard city, tennessee is where I grew up at, and uh, uh, actually, one of my babysitters, uh, took me with them when I was real young, uh, and I went to the skating rink and I just fell in love with it. It was called old Dixie skating rink in Lenore city, tennessee. And once I got a little older eight, nine years old, and and you get in there and it's all dark and the lights are going, man, the music's playing everybody. It's like disco man, you know, and I, I got the fever. You know the next disco man, you know, and I, I got the fever. You know the next thing, you know, I'm getting skates for christmas, and that was it. I was a rink rat, I, I would be the first one to get to the rink, uh, spend the night in there if they'd let me, you know. I mean really that's the way it was oh, I'm not arguing with you.

Speaker 3: 2:03

I don't disagree with you on that one and you know, I kind of got adopted by everybody that worked, you know, and owned the rinks and and I was a regular rink rat. You know I'll end up working in a snack bar and a skate, a skate counter and uh, you know, this was in uh, west knoxville. Then old Dixie closed down and I want to say probably early eighties, 85, 86, 87, something like that. So there was nowhere to skate, so we went to skate town, usa and Knoxville, west Knoxville. They actually had three at the time. Uh, skate town Number one was in West Knoxville, skate town number one was in west knoxville. Skate town number two was in fountain city, off of broadway and skate town.

Speaker 3: 2:50

Number three is which is now roll arena and maryville. Okay, uh, and that's a big, everybody loves to go to roll arena and maryville and that was kind of the worst rank out of the three when that was operating a skate town. Yeah. But I mean, you know, all the way up till probably mid to late twenties. I mean we skated on the speed team. We went, you know, overnights to skating meets. We would go to Tennesseeia and all these different states. Man, you know, traveling speed skating and it was cool, just the camaraderie.

Speaker 3: 3:35

You know, I wasn't the fastest, you know yeah uh, but the camaraderie, the sport of you know, just the act of speed skating was cool and you know you go when you're at a speed skating meet, you go to the night sessions and that's when you show off your, your, your, your. Jam skating that's what it used to be called back in the day when I was shuffle, shuffle skating, it was called jam skating. Back where I was from, you know, we had a jam skate team and, uh, you know we would go to all the local rinks and battle everybody and find the best skaters, and you know it was fun. And then, you know, life happened. This could got disconnected from the skating, you know. And uh, uh, I got back into it a little bit back in 06, 07, 08, something like that. I bought some skates, went skating a few times, but I've been back into it hard and heavy for about two, two and a half years now nice.

Speaker 2: 4:39

Well, the nice thing about growing up and doing skating and as involved as you were and as I was back then nice thing about growing up and doing skating and as involved as you were in as I was back then it's kind of like we could have gone so many different directions as far as like we could have ended up because it sounds like we're pretty close to the same age so you had, like the stoners and the preppies and all that kind of stuff. We could have ended up in any one of those other groups and gone down a different path, but skating always seemed to keep us out of trouble.

Speaker 3: 5:04

So absolutely it kept me out of the lot, but I still got into more, you know. I mean you can't be at the rink 24 seven. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 5:14

And you know where I was from was a small town. So you know, we all got into our mischief and, uh, you know, and I and I kind of got a story like kind of like Corey Cooper does you know, and I kind of got a story like kind of like Corey Cooper does you know I got into drugs and alcohol and the clubs and all that stuff in my. You know my earlier days. You know I got in a lot of trouble. Yeah, not proud of it, but I'm glad I learned that. Not proud of it, but I'm glad I learned that. You know, since I've had my kids and everything else like that, I've been no trouble, not even pulled over, nothing Like straight and narrow since 2009 is when I got out of a drug and alcohol facility.

Speaker 2: 6:03

Well, congratulations on your sobriety. Thank you, sir. I know it's a difficult road. I mean I've never I got lucky cause I never got involved in it. So I've always and people find it hard to believe that I've never tried drugs, I've never tried smoking, I've never tried. So I got a lot of slack for that. They're called a liar, a lot. But I mean it's just the way I was so.

Speaker 3: 6:25

but yeah, and you know it's the way you were raised. You know it's like, uh, you know, I had a lot of freedom as a kid, as a young young adult. I had a lot of freedom, yeah, you know, and I hung out with a lot of stoners, man, you know. Uh, you go to the skating rink in the 80s and 90s, man, you're hanging around stoners, just like today, man. Yeah. They're still out there, bro.

Speaker 2: 6:55

Well, my roller rink because I grew up in the Bay Area in California the roller rink that I went to we didn't really have stoners because it wasn't cool back then. So did you ever do a lot of skating outside at all? I?

Speaker 3: 7:09

have we, we, we did skate a lot of outdoors too especially when we were training, uh uh, speed skating. Okay, me and my buddies I mean we we skated all over Knoxville man.

Speaker 2: 7:21

Nice.

Speaker 3: 7:22

I mean sometimes, uh, me and Larry Jenny is is a buddy of mine growing up Uh, we used to put our skates on and skate to the skating rink. I mean, that's the type, the type dudes we were. We just we didn't care. We, we put our, put our shoes in our backpack, put our outdoor wheels on and we went to rolling. We didn on and we went to rolling, we didn't care. Uh, now I try to skate outdoor as much as possible, uh, because I'm actually testing some outdoor wheels for ron murray right now nice and I've.

Speaker 3: 7:56

I've got a quite a quite a few miles on them, but I don't skate it outdoor as much as I like, I need to just keep the skates, my skates, in my truck. So I'm not doing anything. I go, find me a parking lot or a tennis court and get out and skate, but um, I don't have any outdoor wheels for my von merlin jet, so I'm gonna try to get some for them, but and there's the key word.

Speaker 3: 8:17

Yet yeah, well, procrastinating man, you know. Uh, I got outdoor wheels. It's just, I've been got a lot going on here lately so I haven't really had time to change them out yeah, adulting does suck, yeah, being responsible does kind of suck sometimes I know.

Speaker 2: 8:40

So you got to pay a bill before you get new wheels.

Speaker 3: 8:43

I'm like but I know what you mean.

Speaker 2: 8:46

So when we were younger and I'm just curious to know if you did this too uh like, we had Taco Bell, that was, the drive-thru was open 24 hours. A lot of the drive-thrus were open 24 hours, but the main part wasn't now. Did you ever skate through the drive-thru to order food?

Speaker 3: 9:01

Absolutely, we've done it at Crystal's. Crystal's is a little burger joint, little square burgers like White Castle's. Everybody says they're just like White Castle's. They're not even close. I'm just comparing them to them. They're the same shape. They don't taste anything alike, but they're the same shape Little square, little mini burgers. Little slider-looking things. Which one's better?

Speaker 2: 9:25

Crystals or.

Speaker 3: 9:27

White Castle Crystals. Crystals hands down. Okay. I mean, that's where I was raised in Tennessee, man. So that was, crystals is a big thing, man, Hardee's crystals.

Speaker 2: 9:40

And I was raised in California where we have In-N-Out, and now I'm in Colorado and people freak out about in and out and I'm like it's really not all that, especially when you have it all the time when you're in California. Now they're just starting to get them out here.

Speaker 3: 9:53

So I'm like okay if you guys say so, you up there with Daniel. You go up there and skate with Daniel at all.

Speaker 2: 9:59

Daniel.

Speaker 1: 10:01

Carlson.

Speaker 2: 10:02

I have been. I have been at the rink with him a couple of times, but I don't think he knows me that well, yeah, so I do see him.

Speaker 3: 10:09

That's my buddy man.

Speaker 2: 10:11

Yeah, yeah, I do see him, because usually I'll see him at Arvada, west Skate City and my basically home rink is Westminster, and then with the speed skating we do a lot of outdoors. I'm going to be doing a lot of outdoors here soon, after snow next weekend. But so now, what was like when you got back into it, like 2006,. You dabbled in it Was? Was it just not there, or?

Speaker 3: 10:39

Wasn't Um, where I was skating at around here and austin, and uh, I was working in austin and actually uh started piecing together some skates.

Speaker 3: 10:52

uh, and I've been back and forth from tennessee to houston my whole life my, my dad's been here since 79, so I've been back and forth, back and forth, um, and I speed skated at a at a skating rink, uh, in spring texas. It's called champions roller world. Um, and I grew up with chad hedrick, which is one of the fastest men on the planet. Uh, he won, he won gold medal in the Olympics. Okay For ice skating, speed skating.

Speaker 2: 11:26

Nice.

Speaker 3: 11:27

He won everything indoor, outdoor, in lines. He was there with Derek Downing, the paras, all them dudes, Any fast guys you can think of. He skated with them, yeah, and he was very fast, uh. But back then I was looking for some skate parts and stuff. I was actually looking for a pro line, because that's what I grew up skating on was a labeta pro line okay, I couldn't find any.

Speaker 3: 11:58

At the time. I was like, what, what's going on? What happened? Because I, I mean, I, I did what I'd normally do is call southeastern or or, uh, call my local rink, be like, hey, I need some pro lines. They're like, oh, no, we can't get those. I'm like, what do you mean? So I went and talked to paul hedrick, who owns champions roller world in spring, texas, and I'm like, hey, man, I need a pro line. He's like, uh, they don't make, they're not making them right now. And I'm like, okay, well, what's my options?

Speaker 3: 12:27

So this was in 2006, 2007 I believe and he's like, well, I have this plate called a roll line, a roll line driver. And I was like, okay, cool, it was nice and shiny like a pro line. Uh, you know, uh, the structure looked like it. Uh, it had some cool blue trucks on it with with gold axle nuts and and gold cushion cups and stuff. It looked really cool. And when he, when he gave me the price of it, I was like, wow, it's pretty cheap. And he was like, yeah, it's a good plate. It's like it was a new company back then. Yeah, roll on is a big company now, but back then nobody really knew about roll line, but I got one of those, put it on a nine 11, uh, got me some blue witch doctors and I went to skating, um, and it was dead. It was like dead, uh.

Speaker 3: 13:22

And then, I guess two and about two and a half years ago, I've been skating solid for about two and a half years, so I started piecing together another skate, uh, and I found a pro line and I guess you could only get it through one person and that was michael elsberry. Okay, uh, so I ordered a pro line and I, you know, I got this same boot. I've had this same boot for two and a half years now. Nice, it's changed colors over the years, but, uh, it's been the same boot and uh, it wasn't really, it wasn't really, uh, getting big here. I just wanted to start skating again, you know, yeah, and we started going to our local rinks and then I found out about, uh, I found out about some events and I went to, uh, memorial day, florida event a couple years ago and wow, yeah I was I was blown away.

Speaker 3: 14:24

That's what started this whole thing. We got going on. We started seeing people with glowy shirts and whatever else. My wife had been making me just regular shirts. She made me a Rydell shirt before I even went to those events just a regular Rydell shirt and we started doing our research, started getting glow-in-the-dark stuff and puffy stuff and I mean, if I turn the lights off right now, this is what you would see as a skate fan of Texas is what you would see, because that's what we want to do. Uh, we want, we want the most loud, most obnoxious uh, skate shirts you could get, cause I know you got one. Yeah, you, you know how obnoxious it is when you turn the lights off. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 15:21

People know how obnoxious I am when I don't have the light with a shirt on, so yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 3: 15:27

I mean I, I I'm boisterous, I'm loud, I'm, I'm, I'm friendly, you know, uh, you see me coming from a mile away. Uh, I mean I, I got my name on my hat, I got my name on my. You know, I, that's just, that's just. You know, I'm not trying to be famous, I'm not trying to be somebody, I'm not.

Speaker 3: 15:48

This is how I've been my whole life yeah you know, uh, I'm just trying to cater to the skating community and people who want to show themselves. You know, to be themselves, you know to to have something flashy and cool, and, uh, you know, and to be themselves, you know to to have something flashy and cool, and, uh, you know, and they're not cheap. I'm like they're. They're not cheap. Our shirts are not cheap, but they're one of a kind custom hand laid.

Speaker 2: 16:17

You know, I think I paid 35 for mine.

Speaker 3: 16:22

You know we've got some upwards. I don't know if you do. You know LW shack.

Speaker 2: 16:31

I don't know Like I know, Go ahead.

Speaker 3: 16:34

Him a bant hoodie, okay, and gave it to him at Abilene. Man, that is this the nicest hoodie I've ever made in my entire life. It is gorgeous man, if you ever get a chance to look him up. Uh, that, that hoodie is gorgeous man.

Speaker 2: 16:54

I definitely will the only thing I don't like. I actually have bont boots for my speed skates. I love bont boots, but as far as quad skates, they don't make a quad skate boot my size. What do you mean? I weigh your size 13, and every time.

Speaker 3: 17:13

I'm looking them up even on the Bond site.

Speaker 2: 17:15

It goes up to 12.

Speaker 3: 17:16

Oh, there, it is right here.

Speaker 2: 17:16

Oh, I like that yeah, Multicolor nice.

Speaker 3: 17:18

I'll wear a 14, sean. Okay, yeah, that's. See, that's's awesome but I'll wear a 14 and a work boot, okay, okay, okay. So I'm gonna give you a little little, uh, little history and a little education on bond, okay, uh, and I wear this is a 13, okay, that's a 13, and my von merlins are a 13, okay, uh, that is actually too big, my 951.

Speaker 3: 17:51

I should have got a 12 and a half okay I wear an 11 and a half wide and bont Okay, they make all the way up to a 13 or a 14 in US size.

Speaker 3: 18:07

Okay, and I think, I want to say it's a 46 or a 47, but I wear 11 1⁄2 wide and a bont Okay, so don't be discouraged. If you want to get a bont boot, All you got to do is give me your your foot measurement from. If you don't know how to measure your foot properly for a skate, you take your uh measuring tape, put your foot against the wall, put your measuring tape against the wall, step on top of the tape. Yeah, your big toe lands.

Speaker 2: 18:41

That's your measurement, yeah and that's what you give somebody to uh size you yeah, for my inlines, because I have my inline speed skates and my ice speed skates. I got the 13s and they're fine. It was just trying to find the size 13 in the quad skate so I know right, l's got some good ones. I'll have to do some more research then, or at least reach out to them.

Speaker 3: 19:56

Yeah, I I I'm not a bont guy because I I they're not comfortable for me yeah um, I just I like the, I like the right l's man. I I'm just a right l guy um I like right l's also so and they're just comfortable.

Speaker 2: 20:15

So now, when the thing was dead, like when you were talking about back in like 2006, when you were starting to get back into it, um, and then we had the pandemic, did you kind of see a resurgence of people starting to really skate during the pandemic? Cause I know in California we did. I actually saw a lot of more.

Speaker 3: 20:36

Uh, people buying skate stuff. Yeah, I don't know if it was much after the pandemic. I guess people just got stir crazy and wanted to go do something. So they're like, hey, let's just go to the skating rink or something. You know I I don't know, I don't know how it it got circulated back up. I know Florida never let up Florida people. They were skating this whole time.

Speaker 2: 21:01

Nice.

Speaker 3: 21:02

But it never came our way. Okay.

Speaker 3: 21:08

When I started going back to the skating rinks, you know there was a lot of kids, a lot of birthday parties and stuff. That's how the skating rink survives because our local rink here we got really, really close to the owners and we kind of know and I've been around a rink owners my whole life so I kind of know how a rink operates. You know they don't make money off of, off of regulars or general session skaters. They make their money off of parties, uh, private parties, and you know people renting the rink out. They don't make it, they don't make money off general session stuff. Yeah, they'll tell you straight up, we, you regulars, we don't make any money off of.

Speaker 3: 21:53

But you know, we got a crew together. We started shuffle skating here at our local rink. A lot of people started coming and our crew started going to different skating events and our crew started getting bigger and bigger and our members started getting up and my buddy, larry, he's in tennessee and he was like, hey, man, how do I start a crew? And I was like, hey, man, just open, you come up with this, come up with the crew name and just start offering some shirts to people there you go when he was like well, make me a shirt.

Speaker 3: 22:31

So I made him a shirt. We came up with the name and I don't know if you ever heard of the boondock skate crew, but I haven't. That was it, uh, and it it was probably, I would say, up to 200 members at one time oh wow, that's a big crew it was big. It was big and, uh, it just kind of dwindled away. I don't, I don't know. You know the ins and outs of that.

Speaker 3: 22:56

Uh you know people change in their life and you know, I don't know exactly what happened, but still, everybody still skates together, regardless. You know when we go to the events, everybody's still still the same group, still the same people. You know they're at every event that we go to and I mean it's it's like a big family man. Uh, you ever get an opportunity to come to any of these events. You ought to come to the one in may at at uh in castle.

Speaker 2: 23:28

I actually have my first race for the roller blade series at the end of may, and then this month we actually starting in April. We have Mile High rolling out here, yeah.

Speaker 3: 23:41

I'll be there. We make the shirts for that.

Speaker 2: 23:43

Okay, were you out here for the shuffle skate at Skate City.

Speaker 3: 23:47

All two.

Speaker 2: 23:48

Or not Skate City, Roller City. Both of them.

Speaker 3: 23:51

Yeah, we went to Roller City and then we went to roller city and then we went to uh, so you guys made my shirt absolutely that's funny.

Speaker 2: 23:59

I was like, I was like trying to think, I was like are they the ones that made the shirt? So yeah, yes, sir, skate designs, that's us yeah, so I I actually am wearing the shirt right now, actually with the, with the two on the front there.

Speaker 3: 24:12

There it is. Yes sir, I pressed all that vinyl on it myself. Yes, sir.

Speaker 2: 24:18

So yeah, usually when I wear it up to Skate City up here because we have a lot of people doing the artistic skating and the jam skating, so when I wear this I kind of like stick out like a sore thumb, because I think somewhere on it says Roller City, doesn't it?

Speaker 3: 24:31

It does.

Speaker 2: 24:32

Yeah, they're like you're wearing a Roller City shirt to Skate City.

Speaker 3: 24:38

I'm like skating is skating and it has. What's the other skating rink? Wood Wagon wheel.

Speaker 2: 24:47

Yeah, the wagon wheel yeah.

Speaker 3: 24:49

I love that place. That place is awesome dude.

Speaker 2: 24:53

It is. It's a fun little place. You, I think there's skated it. Oh, absolutely I've been. The only ones I haven't skated is Aurora, and I haven't been down to like Trinidad or um any of the Colorado Springs rinks yet.

Speaker 3: 25:08

So yeah, yeah, when Daniel started this event. Uh, he, definitely, he chose us to make the event shirts. So Daniel started this event. Uh, he, definitely, he chose us to make the event shirts.

Speaker 3: 25:15

So the first event shirt uh, we made. And then the second event and number three will be us again here, so we'll be up there again this year for that. Um, you know, we're friends with Kiki and all the people who run roller city and it's, it's just surreal, man, when you get up there and and those mountains, man it, it's. It's just surreal, man, when you get up there and and those mountains, man, it's, it's just a different, it's just a different setting you know, oh, I love it here you know, let's go to daytona and skate, you know well, let's go to colorado, where it's you can't breathe and it's 20 below.

Speaker 2: 25:50

Let's go there, you know that's what I like about it. That's the like with the speed skating and training up here.

Speaker 2: 25:58

When I start doing my races in may, it's going to be awesome just because of the fact that I'm going to have better endurance than everybody else oh yeah, you're going to have the ones that aren't funny exactly so and I'm like looking forward to going back and visiting my mom in california and just bringing my skates and skating the trails out there and just seeing how it is and hitting my old roller rink. I haven't been there probably in about 15, 20 years, not since my kids were younger but look forward to doing that and stuff. Now you've been sober since 2009 right, that's when you your last um my sober date is uh june the, uh july 12 2007.

Speaker 2: 26:44

Okay, so that's, that's when I went into the facility and then after that and like before you went in, that's when you started to get try to get back into skating back then yeah, yeah, you know, uh, before I went in, uh, I was out there, man, yeah you know, and I bought some skates because I was making real good money.

Speaker 3: 27:04

I was traveling, um, I was on the road making good money, um, so I just started piecing some skates together. You know, I found a pair of skates at the pawn shop, uh, that had a really crappy plate on it. That's when I went and bought that other plate and plate, you know, and I figured, hey, when I was out traveling, I was just, you know, once I'm done with work, you know, give me a bite to eat and I'll go to the skating rink and check it out, you know yeah and I did that for a while, but it wasn't.

Speaker 3: 27:35

It wasn't nothing, you know, solid. I didn't have like a pattern or I wasn't spending a lot of time doing it but okay yeah, you know, the last two and a half years there's not been probably any week that I haven't missed skating yeah I, I, I.

Speaker 2: 27:53

I had a week where I did oh no, I didn't. Nevermind, I'll tell you after we're done what happened. And I still didn't miss it. I didn't miss skating that week either. Um, so was it rough after you got out to at first to try to keep that sobriety, or you know at first.

Speaker 3: 28:13

You know at first. You know the first. I would say six months is probably the toughest. Uh, you know, because the first, the first year and a half in there, you really didn't have. You had opportunities but not really you know, you weren't out there. I wasn't out there like and do what I want to do. It was, uh, uh. It's a behavior modification program and you, you work, you had a job and you work for your sobriety.

Speaker 3: 28:46

You know, and, uh, there are certain criteria you have to meet to be able to graduate from the program, which is a place to live on your own, a full-time job, at least $6,000 in the bank. You know you had to have those. You had to meet those criteria is to get out in a car in your name. Yeah, you had to have all that. So when I got out of there, I mean I had a bunch of money in the bank. Uh, I could have went and did whatever I wanted to do.

Speaker 3: 29:19

You know, uh, once I got out, I had a few drinks here and there, but nothing, nothing, but I, I haven't had any. I haven't had anything to drink like alcohol. Wow, 2010, probably okay, um, except for this one time. Uh, me and my buddy went up to san antonio to skate, uh, with tj dubay. Uh, we went up there to skate with him and rebecca speedy rella, and, uh, we went into this little pizza bar thing and we ordered a pizza and I ordered a Sprite and he ordered a drink and I was thirsty and I chugged this thing down. Dude, it was vodka man.

Speaker 2: 30:05

Me and vodka are not friends.

Speaker 3: 30:07

It was pretty hot man.

Speaker 2: 30:09

Yeah, so, but for the most part, like after that, after you got out, did you skate like intermittently, or was it just kind of like a break until two and a half years ago.

Speaker 3: 30:22

Yeah, it was. It was pretty much. I met my wife in 2010. Okay.

Speaker 3: 30:28

And you know, we got together and then, a little over a year later, we had our first kid, and then it was. You know, life struggles, just trying to keep a job, just trying to keep a roof over their head, food in their mouth, clothes on their back, you know, for the first two or three years, you know. And then my son came after that. So two, two kids and diapers at the same time is pretty tough, bro. I'm just gonna say it's pretty tough, but you're preaching to the choir we made it through. You know, they're 13 and 11 now. Uh, both, both of them skate, okay. My son, uh, rides motor cross, which is dirt bikes right there, nice, yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:22

Now are they following in your footsteps with the shuffle skating or are they kind of going their own direction with their own sport and skating? I just let them do what they want to do.

Speaker 3: 31:31

Okay, you know I, I wasn't ever pressured into shuffle skating. I wasn't ever pressured into a certain style or what kind of thing that I would. They just let me do my thing. You know my, my grandparents and parents just let me do what I wanted to do. So, whatever they want to do, I'm going to support them. How they want to skate, I'll support them. If they want me to help them do things, I'll help them.

Speaker 3: 31:58

you know, uh, but they need to learn uh from other people as well, you know, because that's that. That's that's how I learned too. I learned from other people and and now I I try to help as much, help people as much as I can.

Speaker 2: 32:16

Nice.

Speaker 3: 32:17

You know, I mean, I'm not the greatest of skaters either, but you know, but I do.

Speaker 2: 32:25

Okay, you're better than you were yesterday. Yeah, so I mean, like the really only competition that I see us ever having, even with me being a speed skater, is ourselves. I'm like at 53, I'm not going out there trying to win anything. I'm going out there to accomplish it because I can definitely slower than I was.

Speaker 3: 32:51

Yeah, you know, when I was 18, 19 years old, I'm not going to say I was fast, but I can hold my own. And you know, I wasn't ever good at long distance. I was always good at three to seven laps. Okay, cause on the start, uh, I was a killer on the start, man. I don't know why I would beat almost 90% of the people off start to the first cone every time. I don't know why that is, but I did. I don't know Even adults. When I was a kid I was beating them to the first cone. But then, of course, skinny, long-legged dudes would just outrun me, because I've always been a big guy.

Speaker 3: 33:37

I mean, I'm six, three, I'm, you know, pushing 295 right now yeah uh, but I still skate three days a week, you know, and I can get out there, I I don't get out there and just shuffle skate 24, 7 uh, because I like to do. I like to do middle work and toe work and, and you know slow stuff as well too. I'm. I'm not just all a speed skater anymore like I used to be.

Speaker 2: 34:05

I like to do a little fancy stuff and it's funny because it's like I always tell people, especially like I worked out with my girlfriend in the gym today. And it's funny because it's like I always tell people, especially like I worked out with my girlfriend in the gym today. And it's like people seem to always go for all the fancy machines and I use the machines because I have a different reason, like I said. I'll tell you after, but it's like just going back to the basics, it's like if you don't have the basics down, there's like no point.

Speaker 2: 34:35

Have the basics down, there's like no point. I'm not gonna go like put on a thing of skates and then go try a triple axle if I've never done it before, because you know I don't have the basics down, I don't have the balance, I don't know how to glide, I don't know how to use the edges. So until you get all that down and figure out how to skate backwards, and it's just. It's just the basics. And I think so many people, especially nowadays, nowadays with technology, everybody wants something quick.

Speaker 3: 34:56

Oh, I know my customers, man, just because they see all these nice boots and nice plates and nice wheels and this and that, and I'm like, look man, let's just get you skating good first. Yeah, look man, let's just get you skating good first. Yeah, you know, let's get you in something that's not a 20 degree kingpin angle, let's get you something that's five to seven degrees, so that you can get your feet under you, get your legs under you first, and get comfortable out there on the floor and then we can progress you along to a more aggressive, a more articulating plate. You know, you just got to get used to it. You know, because if I put you on that from the get go, you're going to fall on your face. Yeah, I'm just going to tell you, I don't care how long you've been skating, if you get on something like that and don't't know what you're doing, you're going to the floor yeah, that's what I like.

Speaker 2: 36:00

I like that, I like what you have back there.

Speaker 3: 36:04

So I'm the one that likes to go fast that's a a power down, arius, it's a 45 degree angle plate. Okay, these, these are Von Merlin, these are Von Merlin's. They're all carbon fiber, okay.

Speaker 2: 36:21

Nice.

Speaker 3: 36:22

You know, dance style, JB style boot and man, I didn't think that I was going to like them, Sean, but I do.

Speaker 2: 36:39

Nice. So now, when someone comes to you about making them a skate because I mean, that's like always the thing people always ask me it's kind of like you know what kind of skate do I get? And I'm like I don't know. And they're like, well, why don't you know? And I'm like what do you want to do with skating? What is your goal? Because first of all, you got to know how they want to skate and their style. Let's say, I come to you and I want to be like Estrogen from Moxie and I want to ride ramps.

Speaker 3: 37:13

How would you build that skate Bearings wheels? I would probably start them out with a like a park star, uh, something affordable, you know, to make sure that it's it's stable and it's something that's going to last a little while and not going to break the bank. Yeah, you know you can get those expensive. Uh, you know antique boots and uh, all these different plates and slide blocks and all that stuff. I'm not a park skater but I've seen them. Uh, my wife, my wife actually just got out of, uh, a bond park skate, which is this one.

Speaker 2: 37:50

Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 3: 37:52

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 37:52

That looks clean.

Speaker 3: 37:55

Yes, she's skating, uh, moxie now, okay, no, no, she's skating a moxie, uh, actually a moxie ice boot now with it's got shearling and all that stuff. So it's it's. It's pretty nice. I you know she's been upgraded. Uh, I got those for her first, um, and the bont boots were killing her feet, so she moved over to the moxie and the moxie is more comfortable for, okay, so what kind of bearings do you like to use, because I know, for bearings play a huge part.

Speaker 2: 38:35

Do you see that? Are those tornado bearings? Yes, sir.

Speaker 3: 38:39

Nice 1,000%. Anything that I run, brother, is tornado skate bearings. Okay. I'm actually. I sell bearings for Todd. Okay, cool.

Speaker 1: 38:52

Tornado bearings I sell bearings for Todd.

Speaker 3: 38:54

Okay, cool. So if you need any bearings at a better price, hit me up brother, definitely Do they make them for end lines too.

Speaker 2: 39:01

Do they have ceramics?

Speaker 3: 39:02

Oh yeah, oh yeah, all mine are ceramics, every one of them.

Speaker 2: 39:11

Yeah, that's why it's like, because I regularly maintain mine too. I'm experimenting with different, experimenting with different, like as far as the lubricants go. But monkey lube actually cleans the bearings and it actually lubricates the bearings. I just kind of like to add the little extra. So it's just trying to figure out which lubricant works best for speed.

Speaker 3: 39:26

Here's here's the best lubricant you can buy on the planet. I will show it to you.

Speaker 2: 39:35

Is it going to be bone speed cream? No, sir.

Speaker 3: 39:40

The best in the world? Is it the Bont?

Speaker 2: 39:44

Bont crank. That's actually the one I'm ordering for this time around to see how it works. That's it.

Speaker 3: 39:50

Nice, if you buy it, go get you one of these. Where is it? Okay, it is a. I don't think I have one in here. Where is my oil? It's back there somewhere. It's back there somewhere. Um, you want to get you. Uh, you want to get a needle dropper? Okay, uh, if you go to like, you can go to google and google in lose a real oil. Yeah, lews lose real oil. Yeah, l-e-w-s Lose Real Oil. They're like six bucks. Okay, I take it and I put the oil in another container and I pour my crank into it. Okay, I actually have two bottles of crank that Alexander gave me a long time ago when they first came out. He gave me two bottles, nice, to test out. But on ceramic bearings, I only put, maybe, uh, on my minis, I just, I just wet one ball, that's it. Okay, uh, on my uh f3s, I, I, I put one drop on one ball, that's it uh and they're ceramic hybrids.

Speaker 3: 41:12

Um, it's his f3 series. They're affordable, they're 100 bucks, uh and, and they're phenomenal. You'll never out skate them, I promise you. I've been using his bearings for over two and a half years now. It's the first set of bearings I ever got and I've skated everything. I've skated Bone Swiss, bone Swiss Ceramics, labeta, speed Bearings, fafners Now Fafner 8 Balls hey man, that's a good bearing. Now, bone Swiss Ceramic it's a good bearing. Now bone swiss ceramic it's a good bearing, but is it worth?

Speaker 3: 41:47

325 I don't know, I don't know. I'm not gonna pay 325. I'd rather have three sets of tornado f3s than one set of bone ceramics yeah, I've been using junk ceramics from junk bearings.

Speaker 3: 42:00

I like them, if you ever. You, if you're out there speed, speed skating, you'll see todd set up. Yeah, go over there and say hey, man, jamie sent me. Okay, he says he says to hit you up and I guarantee you he'll hand you a set of bearings, whatever size. I guess it's eight millimeters, probably what you're running. Yeah, so he'll hand you a set, man you know todd's a good dude man. He makes a good product. Uh, is it, is it? Is it the best in the world? Probably not. Uh, bang for your buck. Yeah, absolutely is it the?

Speaker 3: 42:36

fastest bearing in the world. I don't know, I can't prove it. Um, we've done a lot of testing against other bearings, um, and it it's up there with the best. Yeah, you know it's up there with the best stuff, uh, and he's got, he's got several inline skaters on the world team and most of them skate his bearings.

Speaker 2: 43:03

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 43:07

That says something right there about them too. Yeah, them are fast dudes.

Speaker 2: 43:14

I'm working on getting there. I'm trying.

Speaker 3: 43:25

Did it die?

Speaker 5: 43:25

It did, but I'm back all right, there you go so back up.

Speaker 3: 43:29

I drive, like I said. I drive for a living, so I got back up that's the nice thing about editing. I can cut that whole part out yeah, so yeah, but cleaning, cleaning your bearings this is what I've done my whole entire life, sean. Yeah. I've soaked them in acetone. Of course I pull the dust covers. I soak them in acetone. Okay.

Speaker 3: 43:52

And they get like two different baths. So the first bath is just to get all the heavy grime out of it. You know I put it in like I put it in these and I'll show you. I actually got some bearings in them now, like pickle jars. Okay. I just swirl it around, get all the stuff out of it, then I put it and I pick them out with a long pick that I got from Harbor Freight. Put them in the other one.

Speaker 3: 44:23

Just keep doing it until all the and I pick them out with a long pick that I got from Harbor Freight. Okay, just pick them out, put them in the other one. Just keep doing it until all the debris is gone. Once the debris is gone, pull them out. You can either dry them with a microfiber or paper towel, but I blow them out with compressed air. I have a compressed air machine over there that I just blow it out.

Speaker 3: 44:42

Nice, and I let them sit for a little while. I just spin them, spin them and I put one thing of oil in them, put the dust covers back on and go. I mean you can't believe how many people sends me their bearings to clean. Yeah. A lot Now you could go buy one of those expensive electronic cleaners and all that stuff. But I do it, old school it works. It's always worked for me. I don't know Other people have different opinions, that's just the way I do it.

Speaker 2: 45:17

Yeah, and you know, and that's the nice thing is is we all find our own groove and kind of go with what works best for us, whether it be skating or maintaining or anything. But I always tell people, the most important thing is you have to maintain your skates.

Speaker 3: 45:32

Oh yeah, people are asking me like hey, man. So I went to. This is the story. I went to Abilene and the manager of the rink she's like hey, while you're here, can you clean my bearings? I'm like sure, she's like I said when's the last time she said oh, when you bought them from you last year I was like oh, my. God, I was like oh no.

Speaker 2: 45:59

It's been a while.

Speaker 3: 46:01

She's like no, no, I was like wow, but I cleaned them and you know I'll do. Even even they have dust covers on there. You know I still clean mine, at least, probably once every two or three months, man, at least. Yeah, I'm on it, I may be OCD, I may be OCD like that, but I don't know, I just, I just like my stuff clean man. Yeah, I'm on it, I may be OCD, I may be OCD like that, but I don't know, I just like my stuff clean man.

Speaker 2: 46:26

Yeah, I'm doing mine about every six weeks, so and I mean that's what works best for me and it's like I can tell because it's like you can tell when you need to, because you can, I can feel it in my wheels. People that don't skate like we do all the time I don't think can tell, but it's like you have a certain feel after they're clean and then it gets to a point where you can tell like all right, I gotta clean them again, so at least I can oh yeah, I could tell yeah, I had one guy at skate city out here and he couldn't get his wheel to spin.

Speaker 2: 46:59

I'm like, well, have you oiled him? And he goes? No, and he pulled them off. But he pulled the dust covers off and they're steel bearing. So oh no, and I just sprayed some wd 40 in it and all of a sudden it spun. I'm like, get yourself some ceramics. I'm like you work at a roller rink, you skate all the time. Get yourself some ceramics. So. But so now you kind of briefly touched upon what you skate on. So what's your total breakdown of your skates? Cause you got two pairs sitting behind you like bearings, wheels, all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3: 47:33

All right. So this skate is is a Rydell 951. It was a color lab, uh, but I painted it green and purple. Uh, this is a power dime arius. It is a seven inch wheelbase, size, 10 on a 13 boot, which is kind of small for that. But that's the way I like it yeah uh, it came uh anodized, but I fully removed the anodize and I polished the whole plate. Okay.

Speaker 3: 48:13

And then I put vinyl inserts in the triangles, because we make shirts and vinyl, so I wanted some fancy stuff in my triangles. Nice it's definitely T my triangles Nice, Uh, it's. It's definitely T-nut mounted. Okay. Let's flush Mount washers. Uh, it has a? Uh jammers, custom swirl toe, toe plugs. Uh, these wheels are actually tornado, tornado skateings hubs. Okay. With Scott Corey 96A floral purple tires.

Speaker 2: 48:50

Nice.

Speaker 3: 48:52

And 11 ball ceramic Tornado Skatebearings. Okay. Minis, minis. Nice tornado skate bearings. Okay, minis, minis, nice with. Uh, you'll like this. These are fp insoles. Okay, odb welfare card. You know who old, dirty bastard is?

Speaker 2: 49:20

yeah, and I also know the wrestler One Dirty Bitch too.

Speaker 3: 49:23

Yeah, these are some of the best. These have Fluid X technology liquid inside of them. Okay, some of the most comfortable insoles on the planet for skates.

Speaker 2: 49:39

Nice.

Speaker 3: 49:41

And next it will be this this is, uh, Yvonne Merlin. Okay. It's, it's very, very. I mean it weighs nothing. Uh, it probably weighs. Both of these probably weigh less than my other one skate. It weighs nothing. It's probably the lightest skate on the planet. It's a 13. Okay, so it's big yeah.

Speaker 3: 50:14

It weighs nothing. It weighs nothing. So this is a Von Merlin. It's a very nice constructed boot. Mo makes it out of Dallas Texas. It's all carbon fiber on the bottom, all carbon, and it has a power dot arius, of course. I love those plates. F3 Tornado skate bearings and Von Merlin dots 102As 50. What are they?

Speaker 3: 50:45

54 millimeter, okay, small, small nice but yeah, I love these, the things that you can do. This is like a ferrari. Okay, of the skates, this is like a ferrari, it's. It's something else. I've fallen in love with the Arius plates. I didn't think I was going to be able to skate it, because I'm used to a little beta pro line man, that's what. I'm used to.

Speaker 3: 51:14

And then I got a roll line after that. So I just started going up on the kingpin angle so I could get more articulation, you know. So I could, you know, move in and out, uh, you know, do footwork, toe work, uh, be able to, you know, be more articulate. Nice.

Speaker 2: 51:35

So well, very nice setups. That's the first one ever since I saw them in the background. I just keep thinking of the Joker. That's the first one ever since I saw them in the background.

Speaker 3: 51:42

I just keep thinking of the Joker. Yeah, yeah, this is this, this is what I think of it. So, uh, when I go around, I go around to the skating rinks, uh, and I have my skate bag, uh, and here's my skate bag. Oh, and I make, I make custom, uh, skate bags too that hold your skates, each skate, okay, so you put your skate in there and then you put them in your bag. But here's my, here's my, uh, my skate bag.

Speaker 2: 52:14

It's got my little hulk on there oh yeah, but that's like the og hulk right there yeah, yeah and I got, I got the little guy.

Speaker 3: 52:24

Where's he at? He's right here.

Speaker 2: 52:28

Okay, the one thing that's always puzzled me about the Hulk is it didn't matter if he was in a tuxedo and turned into the Hulk. He ended up in purple pants. How did that happen?

Speaker 3: 52:38

I don't know, man, I don't know, but I just Everybody says the Joker, the joker, but I'm like no, that's the hulk man, well, what?

Speaker 2: 52:48

yeah, but it was the white, green and purple, so that's why it kind of like all came together. So because there's not a whole lot of white with the hulk yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3: 52:57

I mean all my cushions I get from Ron Murray are purple and green.

Speaker 2: 53:03

Nice. But so now that you like purple and green, we know you're the Hulk and not the Joker. Yeah, who are some of your biggest?

Speaker 3: 53:19

influences, or your biggest influence in skating, oh man, daniel Carlson is one of them okay that's, that's. That's my buddy man, that's. Uh, he's really near, near and dear to my heart. Keith franklin's really close to my heart, gary bosteros, uh.

Speaker 3: 53:41

Michelle garman, uh, to my heart, gary Bosteros. Michelle Garman, lw Shack, all those people, let's see I can name a bunch of them. Will Osborne, another real good friend of mine. I mean, there's just a lot of them out there that I just Corey Gower, you know. You just watch him and you're like wow, wow, he can skate. Yeah. Even Chase little Chase Jones.

Speaker 1: 54:23

Okay.

Speaker 3: 54:24

You know he's the upcomer, he's the up-and-coming shuffle skater. You know he's going to be reigning supreme someday. Tj Dubay, good friend of mine, good skater, you know I can just name and name and name people yeah uh, you know it's. It's just when you get into the one of those rinks, you get into an event. You see all your people, man, you, you know that you look up to and you want to hang out with you. Y'all just sit there and talk and geek out about skate stuff. Man you know yeah that for me is.

Speaker 3: 55:11

You know, it was hard for my wife at first, you know, because she was like oh, you're out there with all them girls, so maybe you need to start coming to these events with me, and uh, so she started coming and she's like all you do is work on a few other people's skates.

Speaker 3: 55:24

That's like that's what I do okay, so now, the first time you brought her, being from texas and all, did she bring her shotgun with you, with her well, the first time she went, uh, I mean she, you know we've been skating together, you know at the rinks, but this was an event, the the first event.

Speaker 2: 55:42

I went without her. Okay.

Speaker 3: 55:45

So she heard how much fun it was and whatever else. She's been to every one of them with me since. Because she makes the shirts. Yeah, she's the one that cuts off a vinyl and comes up with some of the designs. So she is Lone Star Skate Designs with me. Me and her both are the brains of that comes up with some of the designs. She is Lone Star Skate Designs with me. Me and her both are the brains of that. She always comes because she takes orders while I'm skating.

Speaker 3: 56:16

I did notice that she does good, but she's had upwards of 20, 26, 27 surgeries on her foot. They told her she wasn't going to walk unless skate. And she's been skating. We got married on the skating surface, with skates on.

Speaker 2: 56:37

That's awesome. Last year.

Speaker 3: 56:38

Okay, we got married on the skating floor year. Okay, we got married on the skating floor, uh, and then we went, uh to saginaw, michigan, with gary balesteros and we skated seven rinks in seven days, nice, yeah, yeah, we skated. But we've been planning on going to denver, uh, and going hanging out with dan just you know non-event trip, just go up there and hang out, go to the hot springs and you know, chill and just hang and not be rushed, because skating events, man, they're just, especially when we bring our stuff with us, when we bring the computer and the vinyl press machine, the cutter and all that stuff. When we start getting orders with us, when we bring the computer and the vinyl press machine and the cutter and all that stuff, when we start getting orders, we don't leave the hotel room and other than go get vinyl or go get supplies or t-shirts or yeah.

Speaker 3: 57:33

That's the only thing. It, it, it. It turns into a business and not pleasure trip. Uh, sometimes we just want to go do a pleasure trip, you know, not have to do business. But you know, sometimes you got to do what you got to do yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2: 57:51

So now, what advice can you give to up-and-comers I'm not even going to say young up-and-comers, because the nice thing about skating is you can jump into it at any age.

Speaker 3: 58:02

So that's right. That's right. Uh, if you love it, stick with it. Uh, if you don't go a different direction, but if you love it, keep going you're gonna fall. You're gonna bump, bruise, hurt yourself. But if you're going to bump, bruise, hurt yourself. But if you're not trying, you're not falling. I mean, we all fall, I fall, when we were younger, we were like man I don't fall, I don't fall, I don't fall.

Speaker 3: 58:34

Okay, get on a speed team. You've fallen. I promise you you're going to miss the half of your leg. With all that roll on gonna take all your, all your hair off your legs. Better shave them or wear a full length spandex or something, because I've. I don't know how many raspberries I've got on my legs from speed skating over the years, but you know, back then when we fell, we were embarrassed yeah you know, now it's I.

Speaker 3: 59:02

I just pop back up and go on about my business because, hey, if you're not out there trying to do something new, you're not going to get any better yeah, exactly, usually when I fall I pop back up and go.

Speaker 2: 59:15

Did it look good? Was it like? What do I get on the dive scale?

Speaker 3: 59:19

so yeah, I did that at the castle man, uh, during our our uh honeymoon. Uh, I was right in front of the dj booth. I was in front of will osborne, gary bosteros was there, keith, all my friends were sitting there and I'm I'm over there on my toes next thing, you know, my feet is up over my head. Boom, I landed on my back and they were like man, are you okay? You know, just pop back up, start skating. But I woke up the next morning I had a bruise from the middle of my side all the way to my knee.

Speaker 3: 59:53

It was it was like 10 inches wide all the way down that's a good one.

Speaker 2: 59:59

That's one for the record books.

Speaker 3: 1:00:01

Hey man, you fall. It's not for everybody. You can't force somebody to do this. It's either you love it or you don't.

Speaker 2: 1:00:14

Exactly.

Speaker 3: 1:00:16

And when I put my skates on and I'm on that floor, nothing else matters.

Speaker 2: 1:00:23

Exactly, except for when my food stop is.

Speaker 3: 1:00:28

Well, I already know that we're eating when we leave the skating rink floor so I'm happy already.

Speaker 2: 1:00:33

There you go, there you go.

Speaker 3: 1:00:35

I'm happy already, but it just seems like when you get in there and those events, man, it goes by so fast. Oh, absolutely those events, man, it goes by so fast. Oh, absolutely, you know you're talking to all your people. You know and, and, and, uh, uh, mark mark magoo was like hey man at a skate, like you, you know him right I don't.

Speaker 2: 1:00:58

I'll get connected with him though mark mcan.

Speaker 3: 1:01:00

He does a. He does a video podcast as well. Okay, he's like hey man and uh Roger with Mr Rogers. He's another uh podcast, but he does like videos.

Speaker 3: 1:01:15

He posted the video and everything he did he didn't want with Gary, but we were talking on, uh, abilene, he's like, yeah, man, I need to get you on the podcast, you know, and get your story, or whatever. And I said, all right, just let me know, man, I'll be glad to talk to you anytime, you know, whatever, because this is what I love to do and you know, I always get in a lot of trouble because my wife's like you spend more time on the phone with your skate friends than you do me.

Speaker 2: 1:01:53

You know I'm like babe come on, don't be jealous over that. You know? Yeah, this is what I do. So do any of you worse. Do any of your skate friends show up to your house, knock on your door and ask if you can come out, and play.

Speaker 3: 1:02:00

They call a lot. Hey, you coming to the rink tonight it's got to be the old school.

Speaker 2: 1:02:06

They got to knock on the door and ask if you can come out and play yeah, yeah, that would be cool so now, how can my followers follow you or find you on social media or wherever?

Speaker 3: 1:02:16

I'm on facebook. Um, just uh, jamie ogle, or uh, we do have a lone star skate designs, it's all one word lone star skate, ska designs. Okay, that's on Facebook and it's a group. It's where my wife posts up stuff. She's got a cup spinning on the spinner right now. Looks pretty cool, right. Oh, yeah, it does.

Speaker 3: 1:02:43

Yeah, yeah, she makes some pretty cool stuff. Okay, you know she makes tumblers and you know epoxy tumblers and stuff like that we're making. I'm actually making skate tumblers here soon Epoxy. I'm going to put a bunch of skate stickers on it and then epoxy over it, but they're gonna glow in the dark. You know I'm gonna go over the top bro. Uh, I'm gonna go over the top with an led handle on it all there you go, stuff wouldn't have it any other way.

Speaker 2: 1:03:16

So well, I appreciate you coming on the show today. So appreciate you having me brother look forward to seeing you when you come back out yes, sir, you're going to be there in denver right for the this year. Yeah, I don't think he's got a date solidified, but I think he said in august okay, depends upon what day in august, because I know I got a race in august, so yeah but if you can make it out there to castle, it's may the third okay, I know you said you got a race later, later may, but you can make it out there.

Speaker 3: 1:03:50

It would be one not to miss, I promise yeah, that one.

Speaker 2: 1:03:54

My race is in saint paul, minnesota, so I'm looking at. Like you, you got to figure out finances before you fly out but. I.

Speaker 3: 1:04:03

I already know Appreciate it. Sean All right, thank you, thank you.