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From Ballet to Blades: Tency Trosen Figure Skating Journey
The boundaries between skating disciplines dissolve in this fascinating conversation with Tency Trosen, a Mexican figure skating champion who brings a unique perspective to the world of skating. From her beginnings as a ballet dancer to becoming a nine-time national champion on ice, Teensy shares the unexpected path that led her to skating excellence.
Growing up in Jalisco, Mexico, Tency trained in what she describes as "the third part of a normal ice rink" – far from ideal conditions that forced her to develop exceptional adaptability. When American skaters complained about ice quality at competitions, her perspective was refreshingly different: "This is ice. It's huge. What else do you want?" This adaptability became her competitive edge.
The conversation reveals fascinating parallels between ballet and figure skating, particularly in showcase and artistic competitions where performance quality and storytelling take precedence over technical jumps. Ballet taught Tency a physical language – specific movements that convey precise meanings – which translated perfectly to artistic skating. Her dedication to mastery is inspiring; she once stayed on the ice from 9AM to 9PM repeating a single spin until perfecting it, declaring "I won't leave the rink until I spin."
Tency's competitive achievements include gold medals at international competitions in Lake Placid, New York, and silver in Canada. She shares valuable psychological insights on handling pre-performance nerves by focusing on a single judge. Now transitioning to inline figure skating, she challenges the notion that ice skating is somehow superior: "Ice helps you fly. The pavement doesn't do anything for you." Her advice to aspiring skaters reflects her competitive mindset: forget about just having fun – if you enter figure skating, you want to win.
Join us for this enlightening discussion about the artistry, psychology, and technical aspects of skating across disciplines. Whether you're an ice skater, inline enthusiast, or simply curious about the mental aspects of athletic performance, Tency's journey offers valuable insights about dedication and the pursuit of excellence.
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Speaker 2:Welcome to this week's episode of how do you skate. I am your host, sean egan. Welcome to this week's episode of how Do you Skate. I am your host, sean Egan, and some of you might recognize the last name from my guest. Her name is Tinsia Trozen. We had her husband on earlier this week, so how are you doing?
Speaker 3:today Good Two skaters married.
Speaker 2:Second couple that I've had on. I had Bonnie Blair and her husband, david Kruikshank too. Second couple that I've had on I had Bonnie Blair and her husband David Kruikshank too, so it's always cool when you can have two husbands and wives that are involved in the same sport.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was kind of random, but yes, because I met so many skaters in my life and I didn't look at him as a skater and go oh, he skates, oh wow, the bald head.
Speaker 2:we just don't look like skaters with bald heads, I swear so. So now, when did your whole state skating start? How old were you and when was the beginning?
Speaker 3:well, I started ballet, so skating for me was late and also I'm from mexico. It's not like, and especially, uh, the part I come from there is jalisco it's not like we have not even one normalizing. We have a. It would be like probably like the third part of a normalizing okay so it's not a real ice rink I should be. So I start yeah, be real. Everyone there has to have a extra powers for adapting every everywhere else. So I started in a summer course, probably between 13 and 14 okay and.
Speaker 3:But I already have all my back, uh, in ballet, so it helps a little, not much, because, uh, it makes very artistic, very good performance if you're a ballet dancer. But we're terribly scared of life, so jumping and everything like why, but yeah?
Speaker 2:we actually just saw the movie ballerina last night from the john wick series. Oh my god. And just like she kept doing the thing and you can see just her toes just being bloodied from being up on her toes and everything. Is that like an actual thing, or is it? Was it just for the movie.
Speaker 3:No, no, totally true. My first time on Pointe shoes. Probably a week later all my nails fell, they just leave my feet.
Speaker 2:That just does not sound. And it's funny because, like you said, it makes you a really good artistic. And did you do artistic skating too?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but so I do showcase. There is a whole different thing for figure skating. I have different kind of programs, they have different rules and I also do um, because any skater in normal figure skating after 18 is a old human. But uh, after 18 you can enter to the abu skating. There is a whole whole new world. Yeah, it's, it's very amazing. So in our skating there also exists artistic skating. Yeah, but it's not the normal skating, it's a kind of a branch of a showcase okay so, uh, it's, everything is about your performance and all the artistic.
Speaker 3:It's not about how high can you jump. It's not about how brave you are to do this super exercise. It's more about how smooth you can move. Okay, and how big of an actor you are.
Speaker 3:Okay, so now was that on ice quads or inlines was that on ice quads or in lines, it was so nice okay nice, in my um, my couch, cold, the ice cream, um can you call the glass thing you put on fish uh, the glass that we put up for the um for hockey no, the glass in your oh, the fish bowl or the aquarium the aquarium.
Speaker 3:Okay, I bring a aquarium because it's just a circle surrounded by glass okay, that makes sense, and you're about to fish just swimming around yeah, it's like because I actually had um a six-time national champion from me, mexico, on the show.
Speaker 2:I think his name was Luis Hernandez. Does that sound familiar? Yeah?
Speaker 3:he's been alone always, yeah, so I had him on the show a few weeks ago, I think. Is he a man? Yeah, I mean, who's going to compete against you? For example. Donovan, it's paradise. I mean, who's going to compete against you? Yeah, for example, our um like donovan. He said like oh, I'm I don't remember 12 or 11 times national champion. I say, of course you're alone yeah, like 12 times he's been alone. So if you're a man, it's paradise. I never have one national alone. Yeah.
Speaker 3:At least I have the smallest I have. It was seven girls. Okay. But like in the world competition, in the international competition it was one competition was 60 girls. Oh, wow. So it's like being a man is paradise.
Speaker 2:So you have it a little easier with competition when you're a man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because they want men, because there's not enough men.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe from the same countries, but it's never, if you look at the list when it's unopened, when everyone can get in the competition.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the list of women are like like five different groups. The list of men is like oh, one group already passed okay that's.
Speaker 2:That's kind of cool, though to know it's uh, it's just interesting to see the different skate cultures all around the world and learn more about them, so I always get excited about that. So now, have you gotten into inline, are you? Because I know you're in the Apostle Islands right now? Are you doing the race this weekend?
Speaker 3:No, I started to learn like, seriously, more seriously, inline figure skating this year. Okay. I started to know the inline, obviously, when I got married. It's like oh, okay, that's it.
Speaker 3:And now, like this year, I say obviously when I get married it's like, oh okay, that exists. And now, like this year, I say why not? Like I'm not like competing like before that I was competing like four times each month, so it was crazy. So now I said I can have a little more fun. So it's kind of fun to rediscover skating. Yeah, I learn ice, I know ice, I enjoy it. I of fun to rediscover skating. Yeah, I learned ice, I know ice, I enjoy it, I know what to do. But I also very hard me like everything I don't know. This is not enough. No, I need more active. No, I need more spinning yeah in a line.
Speaker 3:It's like oh my god, it's new, it doesn't matter if I'm not perfect, it's new, I just started, so I kind of having fun, even comparing much. This is me jumping. I I post that kind of uh stupid things in instagram like oh, this is me doing the syndrome on blades and wheels.
Speaker 2:So it's like well, you're married to an expert on who can set you up properly yeah so now, how far did you go with figure skating as far as, like, competition wise?
Speaker 3:well, I have nine uh, national championships. Okay, I am single national championship. Okay, I have problems and I did what is considered like world competition in that world. Okay.
Speaker 3:It's not the only world, but yeah. So I did. My first time was in Oberstdorf, germany. That was the no the first time, I think. Oberstdorf Germany, that was the first time I think there were like 40-something girls and it was fifth place. It was very good, my first time in a big competition. My second time I was fourth, then I repeated in Canada and I got second place. This is like the. It's an intern ISU International Skating Union Competitions. Okay.
Speaker 3:So the third one was in Canada and I had second place, and the last one was Lake Placid, New York, and I have gold everywhere.
Speaker 2:There you go. So now going into your first competition, international competition. What was your nerves like? Were you super nervous?
Speaker 3:I'm always nervous. I don't think there is a way. Everything I do is about being judged for other people. They judge how you look. They judge it's not like nobody cares really. Uh how, uh, I know it's not how. It's not like how really a spin skater looks. They care how fast you are yeah but in figure skating, any kind like showcase, uh, it's very important, it's highly important, and how you dress is it's? Uh, I mean, it's amazingly important, even more important than normal figure skating okay everything.
Speaker 3:Uh, if we are talking about ballet, it's just about how you look all the time. Yeah. You have to still be an athlete, still like, do something, not just look pretty. So I mean always. You will always get nervous, but you have to learn. There is all kind of students. Everyone have their own thinking about how to control that yeah normally get there in. I enjoy the public, like for me, for example, being in a theater and ballet. There's nothing I enjoy more than see the public and on ice.
Speaker 3:I enjoy acting for the judges. I want them to look at me and I want them to look my face, and my coach always told me like, choose one of the judges that you think is a person you feel more connected with or you feel more like nice to do something. Yeah. And you act for that, just just for her. So that's what I normally do, and all my performance is just for this one human.
Speaker 2:Okay, nice. Now when coming up with your outfits for skating, like, do you figure out like what kind of routine and what kind of music and then kind of, correspond your outfit with that?
Speaker 3:In the past it used to be light showcase and dramatic showcase. Okay, no-transcript. Uh, what is performance character? And I think it's artistic. I'm not sure of the right title, the new one but it's about um, so if you choose to be a dramatic skater, obviously, is that what you're going to do? Yeah if you choose a character, you have to become that character. So it has to be clear for the judges If I'm charge-traveling, I have to look like him. I have to act, walk and move like him. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And performance. For example, I have to tell a story to the panel of judges without talking, so all my performance they have to understand what was the story, what was the problem and when we finish. So in the adult screening, the artistic part is a little bit like showcase. You have the freedom to choose be light, dramatic, whatever, but it has to be a high intense performance. That's what the judges are looking for, that's what they award.
Speaker 2:So like the different kinds of tricks or moves I don't even know what we call them in figure skating, so it's almost like it sounds like showcases, almost like the luchadors, where they get out there with their gimmicks and then tell the story of whatever feud they're having on. But unlike them, you don't have an opponent, so you have to tell the story by yourself.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. And that's why the dresses or the whatever you are using is so important and there is rules, like when you are doing performance like artistic skating, you have to be very careful what the limits, because the limits are the ISU still so international skating union don't want the athletic part to be lost, they don't want to be just this super cute show, so they have limits. It has to be whatever you can use to do your performance, whatever you can use to do your performance, but it cannot interfere with your blades, it cannot sell to the eyes and it cannot be very naked, very not decent. I don't know how to say that.
Speaker 2:I understand what you're saying and I completely understand it has to be presentable so kids can watch it exactly.
Speaker 3:I mean that's for figure skating, but it allows a little more than the normal figure skating you normally see a little bit more like maybe you can do more um, something on the head or something more like. I have one performance that my dress have like wings on the down, but nothing that can interfere my performance. It just look more beautiful the movements and everything and improve my performance. Okay, if you're talking about showcase, you can go literally to almost whatever place you want to go. You can use theater like theater makeup. You can use a costume like toes to head. Yeah, it's a world that most of toes to head. Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's a world that most of the world don't know. It's very fun to see.
Speaker 2:So what do you prefer doing, the showcase or more of the artistic skating?
Speaker 3:For me the same it's just artistic is like a light showcase for me. Okay. What I love the most, I think, is spotlight and showcase performance. A spotlight is a kind of showcase. Okay, use props, so if uh, wherever I can use, hats, fans, uh, ribbons. So I really, really enjoy skating like what was the one, I skate something from Cirque du Soleil, from Coteo, I think. Okay.
Speaker 3:I use a ribbon. So I was this what is it meme? And I use a ribbon for everything. I don't know how to explain it to like do the whole performance with the ribbon.
Speaker 2:So, and if people don't understand, it's almost like the gymnastic ribbons, I think, with the stick and the ribbons half the length, because if I use the ones they use, yeah, I will have problems with my blades just because it's too long yes okay, so half the size the gymnasts use. Nice now, with all your competing. Where is one of your favorite places that you've been that you got to compete at?
Speaker 3:well, um, I think, uh, I divided. Well, I think I divided between, emotionally speaking, beautiful for the beauty of the brain, maybe. Okay. And because it was a huge, huge achievement for me. So for the emotional part, I think my first competition in San Diego Ice Arena Okay, Because never before that won anything. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I get there and I literally did my showcase and I get out and okay, we can go, who cares, I never win. And then they run after me the girls I compete with and they say you won, you want to stay for the award tournament? Oh so, it was the first time and I never stopped winning after that.
Speaker 2:so it was like, wow, I can win, and then you just had to go marry a champion yourself, right?
Speaker 3:That was just my luck.
Speaker 2:There you go. So I was going to say it's just kind of funny saying winning an ice competition in San Diego, because San Diego is not known for ice or snow.
Speaker 3:No, I guess not, but I mean it's very common for Mexicans. We have obviously a lot of connections. Yeah, so a lot of connections. Yeah. So a lot of the team wants to compete there. So for many it's like the first time they leave the conference. Okay. The second one for me, for the beauty of the ring, I would say about Overdrove Germany.
Speaker 3:It's amazing. I never see something before that. After that, yeah, I knew many others, but that one was amazing. They have three ice rinks one for training, one that is the stadium kind of. Yeah, they have one they use for the public and for ice dancing. It was amazing. Full of mirrors, surrounded, so super beautiful, and you can see in the training one, the mountains behind and the whole Germany was like wow, I'm here. Yeah, that was like wow. And the third one because it was very cool to win that competition when I participated in the Master Winter Games to win the competition and the like.
Speaker 4:Almost no one. When I participated in the Master Winter Games.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the competition. And almost no one won from my team, so it was like whoa, I did it and everyone celebrated me, and it was Innsbruck, Austria. And Innsbruck was the place where the what was it? 1972? No 19. I don't remember.
Speaker 2:Olympics game, for which where inzbruck?
Speaker 3:austria? Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I know 1980 was lake placid, the 1932 and 1980, yeah, yeah my one of my ancestors was actually in the 1932 winter olympics for bobsledding, but he's also the only person to do winter and summer olympics.
Speaker 3:So he did 19 I want to say it was 1912 summer olympics, or 1914 for boxing and then did 1932 with the bobsledding oh, wow so a lot of fun in that ring because they have the names of yeah, so yeah, that's super cool so in australia was all the environment. It's like the. I think the closest it must feel to be in olympics because they present every country. There is like a parade for every country yes and you have the teams. You know people from all over the world so it was super fun like enter with a Mexican flag and to see all the different like uniforms. That was a very like intense school competition.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then everybody that you get to meet from around the world had to be pretty amazing too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because they didn't include only figure skating. They include all the other winter sports. So you know different, different humans, not just figure skaters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's pretty cool. Now, did you ever make it to Olympic tryouts at all, or?
Speaker 3:No, I mean I started late and I start in mexico, so it's not easy yeah it's getting easier in mexico, I have to say it, not in my state.
Speaker 3:My state, uh, literally that's everything we have. Like I get to every international competition hearing like the american girls say, oh, this ice is horrible, how we are going to skate there or compete. And I look at them like this is horrible, this is ice. I mean, it's huge, and what else do you want? And they look at me like why, where do you skate in a circle. And I'm lucky. I'm lucky there's no water on the ice so.
Speaker 3:I feel like Mexicans. We are like, at least the ones from my state. We are like we can take whatever, like, no matter what we put up, we can skate.
Speaker 2:I mean it sounds like if they're complaining about the ice, which is kind of funny to me because I think Zamboni has kind of smoothed out all the ice. The same for everything pretty much.
Speaker 3:Yes and no, because there are different qualities on the ice, like some competitions, like my, ice is normally like soft. Okay. So I compared is this skate in line? Is this skate on? What will be like? Okay, I don't know how to pronounce that, so don't laugh.
Speaker 2:You can't say don't laugh, and I start laughing, so that's just good.
Speaker 3:I don't know how to say W. The what. The lumber, oh, the wood, yeah, I don't know how to say it. Told you I'm terrible. So in that surface, when you're using inline you can feel that it's softer. So that will be like my eyes, but when I get to germany it's incredibly hard but smooth in a good way. So, yeah, you feel like the different, like bonding, especially in jumps. It's like some ice kind of push you to the air and then the other ice, don't let you go Like they pull.
Speaker 3:So, and for spinning, if you are in a very how do you say, more soft surface, it requires more strength. Okay. But if you're in a softer, your speed will be crazy and you rarely do any effort to spin, so you need more control.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's kind of nice to train on the rougher surfaces then. That way, when you get to the nicer surfaces, you kind of have that strength advantage.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I can say every competition I ever won it was because of my spinning. Yeah. I never fail a spin. Well, maybe once, but it's not normal. So it's like I feel comfortable and it's like, no matter what surface I am, I'm not scared. I literally spin in the worst one, so why cannot do it in the best one?
Speaker 2:Exactly so. Now, when you started inline skating, did it come pretty natural to you because of your ice skating background?
Speaker 3:There is a funny thing I observed Normally when someone starts on wheels, on any kind of wheels inline quads, whatever and they change to ice, they are the bravest. Yeah, even T tavis told me. Oh yeah, like, just give me a few minutes and he's a nice like whoa yeah they're not afraid of anything you can take.
Speaker 3:Well, not everyone. I know some one or two that know, but most ice skater put it on wheels. That's fine. They won't do like three the most safest thing and they are checking the surface on any kind of rock. It's like oh no. So I will say I started like a normalized career, like oh my God, what is this? And the first time I fell it was like this really hurts, like falling on ice is like okay.
Speaker 2:Depends upon how you land on the ice. If you go face first, it hurts.
Speaker 3:Well, you learn to let your body go. Yeah. I don't know how to say it because it's probably not even a second, but you have like an image like oh no, this is doom, I'm going to die. So you just let your at least me, I just let my full body go, except one or two times that I tried to avoid it. I put my hand and I how do you say, break it, broke my hand.
Speaker 2:Broke your fall.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh you broke your wrist. Yeah, that was enough Okay.
Speaker 2:Because you went down with your wrist like that. Huh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. Not wise of me, but yeah, and that's how I competed. Once I disguised it like with a glove, so nobody see it was rocking.
Speaker 2:Hey, we do what we got to do in competition.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because supposedly it wasn't allowed, because it's not artistic. Obviously it's not very showcased. Yeah. With a cool glove, and the right thing.
Speaker 2:Well for showcase. If he had a cast, you could have just added that as part of your costume, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, the glove works very well, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay. So now you're saying, like with the fall, do you let yourself go when you fall in line, skating like you did with ice, or do you brace yourself?
Speaker 3:more. No, there's no way. I mean you fall with your whole weight over the pavement. It's horrible. I don't want to fall again here ever. So I think I learned and I have to overcome my fears because this requires more strength. And it's kind of interesting because a lot of ice skaters it's not around the world, but in a lot of places in Mexico they feel like they belong to a 12 different class, because you are ice and you have to pay for skate yeah it's a super high, expensive sport.
Speaker 3:So you look at the people using wheels oh, poor people, we are in a whole different level fancy. So they always kind of make everyone using wheels feel like, oh, this is like a lower class sport. And when you start doing it figure skating in line, it's like ha-ha, I want to see you here. It takes way more bravery to spin here than spin on ice. Yeah. Ice helps you. The ice makes you fly the pavement. Don't do anything for you. You have to do everything.
Speaker 2:You have to have the strength to do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the control, I mean. And it's like, oh nice, you even the simple thing that you say, okay if I go in backwards, okay, so I just let myself go and I'm okay. Yeah, do you want to go backwards on wheels? Your wheel will kill you. So it's like I don't know it's like I really respect and admire every kind of skating, no matter what you are using. What kind of skating like?
Speaker 3:uh, aggressive skating quads, uh roller in line, uh, it's amazing like yeah it takes something like I'm not saying ice long, yeah, it is, it's difficult and it takes control, but if the start wheels, oh my god, I give you a week and you will be amazing tonight yeah, and that's one of the reasons why I started the podcast, because I do ice inline quad and skateboarding, so I cover like all forms of skating, trying to bring everybody together and, like you know, we're all skaters and we're all part of the same community.
Speaker 2:Like me and Tavis, we like this fast stuff. And then I've got friends that are artistic. I've got friends that are jam skaters with cruise. I've got friends that just like to do ramps and all that kind of stuff. So there's just like so many styles that it's hard to just pick and just focus on one style of skating and that's why I like bringing kind of the skate community and like different stories and get to hear about things from all over the world, different styles, and I mean I've had hockey players. I'm hoping to have a former NHL player on here soon.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so and I've had Olympians from. I don't know if you remember Dan Jansen or Bonnie Blair.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 2:I've had both of them on plus her husband David Cruikshank. I'm working on getting Scott Hamilton, so oh, that would be amazing. Yes, he's a super nice guy. Yeah, so I mean we've emailed back and forth just trying to lock down a time when we can get together, but it's just like an amazing community. And tavis came and started talking to me immediately after the um actually before and after the race and I mean I had some issues so I didn't get to hang around very long afterwards. So he can tell you about that later.
Speaker 2:But okay, okay so, um, but yeah, it's just an amazing community and, uh, last weekend or when we had the race, that was my first race in 33 years, so it was, it was fun to do, and I live Colorado now and the skating community is huge out here. But we have coaches for speed skating and all that. And it's funny how you said, like, you have to pay for ice skating, for figure skating. That's everywhere, that's not just Mexico.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I discovered that because my mom, when I was younger, she used to think, oh, russians, I mean it must be super cheap, super easy. And when we started talking with all the Russian skaters, they were like, no, we have to pay. And when they used to say nothing, so we were like, yes, it's an expensive sport, no matter where. Yeah realize like, yes, it's expensive sport, no matter where, yeah, and when you're using, like you will know, uh, any kind of inline skate, you still have to pay for your skates and everything else.
Speaker 2:So it's, it's expensive yeah, and especially if you want quality, because our wheels get worn down, our bearings get worn down, our frames crack. Sometimes you need to upgrade your boot. All aspects of skating cost money. Yes, unless you do, it's not as much. But if you do like the freestyle with the ramps and the aggressive and the skateboarding, it's a little cheaper because we got free skate parks.
Speaker 3:Probably, probably. They deserve it. I get those guys flying and I'm like, okay, you are in a whole different level of I dare to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Now did your ballet training really help you as far as just balance goes on skates.
Speaker 3:Oh no, it helps you a lot in everything. Yeah. I don't know if you know, but in ballet there's a language with your body, literally a language Like, okay, anyone else they cannot see, but you will see, like, for example, in ballet. This means death. Okay.
Speaker 3:Crossing my arms in this way is that. It is specifically that, so there is a whole language. If you do this, it's like talking okay so you can translate that the pure experience don't have it and you have better choreography because you can do all the the thing, like you can see the intensity, the performance yeah it helps you in that it helps you also that ballet dancers I mean there's nothing more tough than being a ballet dancer.
Speaker 3:Whatever who thinks oh, so sweet. No, no, there's nothing sweet if you do black swan, that's a reality.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much yeah, did you ever see the movie um the game plan with the rock, where he's the football player and his daughter comes and she does ballet and he's like a professional athlete. He's like, oh, I can handle this, and they have them doing it. And he's like holding onto the bars, like just dripping in sweat, trying to drink water and stuff and just shaking. So yeah it was just funny to see that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's like I mean the competition in figure skating is. It's tough because everyone wants to win. That's the truth, but you're still just one human. You can be the most annoying form of human, but you are on your own. If you win, you win, but in you can hate everyone and you still have to dance with them. Yeah. You cannot be like such a bad person because they are next to you. They can trip you down, they can do something.
Speaker 2:Little elbow to the face or something. Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:That was an accident. They do worse. Yeah, I mean in hero skating. Skating too, they do quite ugly things, but in ballet like for example one of my um friends uh, they have like a crash um glass okay on the point s, so try to step on that. Yeah, horrible no, thank you another day I step on the, the tooth, the dress, with dirty shoes over and ruin it that's crazy yeah, no, no, no, I knew another. Like there's all kind of ugly things like you're not talking about nice speed skating, this is like I'm prettier I'm smarter and I want to win yeah
Speaker 2:on my way that's why it's kind of like I like the inline speed, skating the marathons, not doing the track stuff, the pack or indoor um, because all I want to do is like I set my time this year. Next year I want to beat that time I just got. I'm my own competition, I'm the only one I worry about. I'm not worried about everybody else. So exactly.
Speaker 3:But I have just to feel off of me because I have a fright and say, at the end of the day, it's better to be how do you say a lousy winner than a good loser. Who cares?
Speaker 1:So be a crappy winner as opposed to a gracious loser.
Speaker 3:Nobody wants to be the gracious loser, sorry.
Speaker 2:Hey, if I lose, I lose. It's funny because my son did wrestling for a while and there was an incident where, because you can't always win, even though you go out there and you try to, you're going to lose. And I'm going to say a thing that I don't know why I'm drawing a blank on his name. Uh, matt, something from the ufc in season two of the of the ultimate fighter thing, he goes. If you've never lost a fight, you're fighting the wrong people.
Speaker 3:Like your competition level isn't high enough yeah, yeah, can be, can be, can be, it can be. Yeah, I remember a coach told me it was probably my first national and I was horribly nervous and my choreographer so we have a technical coach and a choreographer. My choreographer looked at me and said why are you nervous? And I said look at the other girl, look at this. I was making a whole drama. And she said, like this is not competition, this is like a. You're crushing everyone. And you say she said you should be in another place, not here, like no, but but nothing, like just follow, go. Like. So it's like do you know? Like yeah, probably should be higher level, because if it's too easy, you're probably not in the right place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so like if you're beating everybody and you're undefeated, but it's like, but when you do compete, you want to go against the best at the level you're at. So you don't want to compete with people like, like, I mean, I know there was a crap load of kids that beat me in the race. I think I came in 116th out of 128. So I mean, but that's my time to beat for next year. So now it's and I wanted to do it, to know that I could do it. But I'm also because you guys will be in um in august and september at duluth and uh, dakota, north dakota, right yes so I'll actually get to meet you then.
Speaker 2:So I've already met your husband, I'll actually get to meet you too. So but it's just one of those things where it's just I love competition. And then also, what happened with my son with wrestling is he wrestled this guy for the third time and went into triple overtime. The kid actually beat him this time and his mom was like trying to comfort him and his grandmother and he like he goes look, I lost. It's part of the sport, get over it. He's like I'm not going to win and this is when he was in sixth grade. He's like I'm not going to win every competition. He goes I go out there and I give it my best, win or lose, I don't worry about the loss.
Speaker 3:I got to prepare for the next match.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's very, very good thinking for an athlete. Yeah. I have the wrong one. I have problems in everything I do I. That's why I became so obsessive. Make me better? I'm not sure, but um, yeah, that's the right way of thinking. That's why can we say I will raise our kids, you have problems?
Speaker 2:so you're basically a perfectionist when it comes to your skating.
Speaker 3:I'm terrible. I think it's part of the ballet culture. The first time I had probably a month learning ice skating and I was learning for the first time my first spin, almost spin. Everyone knows that spin. It's like the first easiest one. First thing spin everybody. Everyone knows that skin is like the first easiest one. Okay, I stay from 9 00 am to 9 00 pm on the ice just repeating one exercise over and over and over again, and I say I won't leave the ring until I spin. Okay.
Speaker 3:That's my level of obsession. I won't say committed, because that's a whole new level of obsession, but yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So they always say don't worry about the guy that knows 10,000 moves, Don't always worry about the guy that did one move 10,000 times.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 2:So I did do a little pro wrestling back in the day, and the one thing they taught you is, before you move on to the next move, you master the one move.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So you mastered the spin, and then you were ready to master the next move.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, that's basic. I think, Well, I don't know. I know a few sports. I didn't. Well, ballet's not a sport, but it's really a sport.
Speaker 2:I consider dancing a sport. I mean, I love the step-up movies and I consider them athletes, Because there's no way you can dance at that level and not be athletic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you have to. So I do ballet and ice skating and now inline field skating and I did and I also competed a little bit in fencing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Great, You're dangerous on the ice and you're dangerous with what do they call them?
Speaker 3:Fountain foil.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're dangerous with one of those too, tavisis, be careful and I'm better with a sword, yeah you're better with a sword than the fencing foil.
Speaker 3:Yes, different weapons. You have the table, yeah, and the fencing foil yeah, just tell tavis if he gets in trouble.
Speaker 2:Just 9-1-1 and I'll come help. I don't know what I'm going to do against you, but I teach him. He's pretty good okay, good, so he's got a. He's got a fighting chance. Is what you're saying?
Speaker 3:he's fun like so now has your obsession carried over into the inline oh, yes, yes, definitely like uh, at first it was, yes, super fun because my mom is being with me in every adventure I've ever been, because she says I'm here to defend you, because I get into very difficult environments, like I also get into a little bit like modeling, like TV and all that stuff, and so it's very tough environment that everyone wants to do something. So she was like my loyal companion. She's a skating man so she knows everything about skating. She knows she can be a coach. Nice.
Speaker 3:So she started going with me in line and she said I'm going to stop thinking. This isn't right. I have to see the same ice skater I see normally here. So she started I was like, oh, who cares, mom, now I get to jump. And she went no, that was wrong, you better jump. You need to jump higher, you need to do this. So she was telling me, like I was on my ice blade. I was oh wow, but I like that energy, I like like she telling me, I can do more. Okay.
Speaker 3:Super, like oh, wow, yes, I can do. And I was like frustrated, like wow, I cannot spin correctly here and it's because the wheels no, it's not the wheels, you are not listening to your technique Like okay, so I'm, I'm like, oh, yes, yes, like I don't know, I like the energy. It's obsessive, yes, but I think he's still in, um, in there, um dangerous line of healthy obsessive okay, basically you're addicted yeah, now are you gonna end up, are you gonna compete and in artistic skating within line works.
Speaker 3:I know go works uh, I know uh, one of the choreographers in my state he's also a choreographer for figure skating on quads on roller okay okay, maybe ask her. She must know like how the world there. And I say, well, maybe I start just one uh exhibition, like just something, not joshy, just for fun, and I see what I can do, why not?
Speaker 2:okay, um, I have a project that I'm working on. I'm not going to give any details right now. Well, after the show I'll tell you. But, um, I think it might be a cool thing. So, if you want to actually do an exhibition, or get some people for an exhibition and we could probably put something together, oh, perfect yes so now, who was your biggest influence for skating? Or did it start with ballet and then move into skating? So your biggest influence?
Speaker 3:so I started ice skating because I wanted to fence, and I begged my parents to be a sensor yeah, yeah. And finally they give up. I was like probably 11, 12.
Speaker 3:They take this one class with a professional team of censors in my state. It was quite good in that moment. And they say, oh yeah, her class will start in a moment. We are just finishing these rules and one guy break a helmet, another guy start taking out the clothes. It's not the real clothes, it's your protection. My dad was scared to death. They are hearing a woman. They are getting naked in front of each other. He was thoroughly like he just stepped on hell. So I think she will never do fancy. And look at my mom, look for her something pretty to do. So my mom couldn't think nothing else. They do ice skating in mexico, yeah. So yeah, she find me that. And then they regret it because, like everything in my life, I became so excessive that they have to pay a lot yeah why we did that because your dad told her to find another sport for you.
Speaker 3:That's why yeah and then it comes a moment that I can pay my things and I still get too expensive. Yeah, sport for you.
Speaker 2:That's why yeah, so if you want to blame somebody, it's your dad's fault. So now, what kind of ice skates did you use? Like, what's your preferred ice skates?
Speaker 3:um, so I try many, but I am up with jackson okay because, uh, there was like a fashion that everyone started to try the lighter yeah oh, it can make you this super huge, amazing performance. And there's a lot of my teammates to try Edea. They try different, but for me right now Jackson has the perfect needle. Okay. Because he has a little bit of the lighter thing. I don't remember the name of the material.
Speaker 2:The what there's suede, there's leather. What was that?
Speaker 3:Fiber carbon. Oh, carbon fiber. Yes, okay, the lowest part of that is lighter. It's still very tough, strong. Yeah. I use the Elite, uh boot and jackson and I well, I changed many times of light. I use the vision blade until we disappear and then I change to the closest. I like big um talks okay I don't know why. I feel very comfortable for spinning to have big toe picks.
Speaker 2:That? That reminds me of the movie the Cutting Edge too, where he kept falling toe pick, toe pick, yeah. And now, what kind of inlines do you use?
Speaker 3:So obviously the boot. I just use the same boot because this is my boot. Now, what kind of inlines do you use? So obviously the wood. I just use the same wood because this is my wood. I feel comfortable Okay. So I use the Elite from Jackson. Okay. Now I don't know the number, because there's 5,400. They're different models, but it's Elite. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Jackson and I'm using I try also two different frames. I mean I I don't have a longest career, obviously, I'm just started. Yeah, I try a frame with three wheels from jackson okay after all for me, I say well, I'm using jackson, why not three wheels? And it have like a very strong big toe stopper okay but uh, so I'm used to the blades.
Speaker 3:The blades are longer than three wheels yeah so when I try three wheels, I feel like I was in a dancing blade super short, like, oh my god, this is not a stability at all yeah my other part of the blade, so then I changed to four wheels. The frame is a big frame okay four wheels. Uh, the toe stopper is less fancy because the one jackson used you can move it up and down. It's very like a strong.
Speaker 3:It lasts longer okay, the peak frame have, um, two different toe stoppers. One there is a white, small and kind of goes, runs off very fast, and another there is big, great, more strong one, and you cannot move the height. But it's perfect for me. Why? Because the four wheels they are a little bit separated so it allows me to more different surface without having any trouble, because it's 68 wheels so you need the space. Yeah. The four wheels are the same length exactly as my legs. Okay.
Speaker 3:It gives me a whole different level of stability. I feel, oh, I'm on blades and the toe stopper is super close to the surface, to the pavement, so like just millimeters up, what makes me feel exactly like my toe pick. Okay, so for me, that's me feel exactly like my toe pick Okay. So for me that's been working amazing. I love it.
Speaker 2:Awesome. So now, what advice would you give to new up-and-coming skaters? Or even if they want to do ballet or skating, figure skating or even inline skating, because you've got everything under your belt well, I will say if you want to study ballet, think twice.
Speaker 3:You have to be very healthy psychologically speaking to not break down there, because if not, you're going to end up crazy with some eating disorder or something else for sure. Okay. You need to be incredibly strong mentally, Physically. Compared with the mental part, it's the easy part.
Speaker 2:Yeah so and now what about for figure skating?
Speaker 3:If you're going to enter figure skating, I would say If you are going to enter figure skating, I would say yes, forget about. Oh, we are just here to compete and have fun. That don't exist. If you enter figure skating, you want to win? Yeah, don't care about all the poor suffering of any other girl, you care about you and win. So get over and put to work. Straight to the point Go and win.
Speaker 3:So get over and put to work, straight to the point, go win, and no matter what country you are. I hear that so many times. Yeah. You win over a Russian and they say we're at the same level, same age, why not?
Speaker 2:Yeah, competition is competition, no matter where they're from I have two thumbs, two, two seats.
Speaker 3:It's the same thing yeah um in inline I would say I really admire people like in kind of challenge my uh my fear. So I really admire them and I will start with inline, so that way you are the bravest and then you can change to whatever you want.
Speaker 2:There you go. So now, how can my listeners follow you?
Speaker 3:I'm on Instagram. I'm Tensie Trosset the name. But it's a robot. How do you say the A with the circle in English? The?
Speaker 2:A with the umlaut.
Speaker 3:That's it, tensy Tens. Okay. So you can test it. It will appear, that's nice.
Speaker 2:Well, I appreciate you coming on today.
Speaker 3:Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you.